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Oh, sorry, I do it automatically. ^^' At first I check on page if artist released something, but maybe I just overlooked it. Which pages do you mean? --Hikari 12:48, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

No worries, it happens to me the contrary same thing, I put k-pop on everything XD. The two singers I talk about are Lee Hong Ki and Taecyeon. No mayor releases for them, but definitely in solitaire. --Pizca 19:05, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

Nobody

Hey would you consider the new Nobody Rainstone Remix (English version) released by the wonder Girls today to be a continuation of the Nobody series of singles and to be added to the Nobody page or is it a single of it's own and therefore deserving of it's own page? Krazoom 03:14, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

It should be on the same page. All the versions, remixes, etc.. of the same songs must be on the same page. I was waiting a couple days before adding it, because I'm not too sure if it's a digital or a physical release XD.--Pizca 04:16, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
Ah gotcha gotcha. According to allkpop it's both a physical and digital release but I'm not sure when the physical copy will be available.Krazoom 05:38, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
I saw it there too. I think the physical CD has something to do with Wallmart, and I don't know if it's going to be an exclusive release... Too much questions XD--Pizca 17:11, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
BTW, I'm working on Girls' Gen. pages, so thank you so much for the new pics. ^^ --Pizca 17:44, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
Oh haha YW :D Krazoom 02:46, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

IU...Im

Hey are you seeing what Teodz1984 is adding to the IU...Im page? Is that info really necessary? I ask you since you made the page XD. Krazoom 05:35, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

Well, I don't see Arirang TV so, I guess if he changed it was because it wasn't correct, but I haven't seen any pages with that kind of P.S. for a title change XD--Pizca 13:22, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

I Don't Care

I'm still not too sure about the I Don't Care page because those digital singles were released after the mini-album. Those examples you gave have the single being released first, which I have come across before but not this. What do you think? Does the same rule apply even if it was released after? --Plisskin 01:03, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

That's why I put Hamasaki's single as example. Daybreak is a recut single of I Am... album, and as you see the single info goes first. Other example can be the new version of Mata ne released after AND I LOVE YOU.--Pizca 01:15, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
Okay. Thanks. --Plisskin 01:19, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Bigeast

Hey, I was just wondering why you removed Tohoshinki's Bigeast versions from "COLORS ~Melody and Harmony~ / Shelter" and "BREAK OUT!". --Lambchopsuey 17:55, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

Because they have released Bigeast versions for almost all their Japanese singles, and as we don't have information for what they contain I felt unnecessary for only those two to be there (and if I remember correctly, there was only a cover and a serial code). The singles can only be bought by Bigeast members so it's not really necessary to have them listed, but anyways, I've been trying to find info of all the singles but it's seems there's not too much (or I'm blind XD). --Pizca 18:24, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

Formatting of titles

Please don't neglect to put Albums and longer works like dramas and lives in italics, and songs and shorter works like singles in quotation marks. I just happened to notice the problem on the recent TVXQ pages you made. Lvng 16:58, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

I really hate italics and quotations marks, so I probably forgot them always xD, but you can go ahead and change them. BTW, as far as I know there isn't a rule about the use of italics or quotation marks for titles/releases, or is there?. --Pizca 17:05, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
There actually is a rule about it (we just don't have our style page done yet). It's pretty proper to do so, and it easily marks the difference between something like Distance (an album) and "Distance" (a song on that album), and it also helps set apart a title from a section of text, especially when the page isn't linked. I would love to change them myself, but I'm afraid it isn't my job to go and change things (I'm a regular user too) and I don't know TVXQ that well; I don't know the difference between their albums and singles and songs. Not that I'm forcing you to do it now, but sometime would be nice, just so we can have a uniform style here. We appreciate what you do here; song pages can be a pain to make for an artist with a massive discography. Lvng 17:26, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
Well, if the "problem" it's to difference between songs/albums with the same title, I always put it like "xxx single" "xxx album", so no problem. As for non liked songs or albums, I always use quotation marks, it's just that I don't find it necessary when the title is linked.
And thats what I meant, the style page is not done yet, and since I made more than 100 song pages for them, I don't think I should change now because what (I) want is to keep that consistency. --Pizca 17:40, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
Well it's been decided in the forums, and Themonkeyofdoom is working on the style page now. At the very least, you can start using that format on your new pages, so that the clean up isn't as heavy. The fixing can come later.
And by the way if you only use quotation marks sometimes, THAT is inconsistency.
Oh and thanks for fixing the link on Distance. I definitely hadn't realized that I didn't link to the song.Lvng 19:19, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
You welcome. When the style page is done, I would be more than happy to change them all if it's necessary. What I don't want is to do something now, that later may be not fine (or don't follow strictly the guidelines) to change it again.
I don't only use the quotation marks "sometimes". I use them when the title/artist is not linked.
Anyways, I think there are a lot of things to fix in the wiki and we are spending too much time for something that is not really important.--Pizca 19:32, 15 February 2010 (UTC)


Please start using these linking formats. Even back on thePPN we used quotation marks when refering to a title. Now we are making it more proper having longer works such as albums, DVDs, films, and TV series put into Italics and shorter works such as songs, singles, and episodes put into quotations. All of the works should always be written this way, and they should always be linked (unless the same page has been linked numerous times within an article). ~ Themonkeyofdoom 04:29, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

OK, so basically "big" releases go in italics, and "smaller" releases with quotation marks? And I'm just being curious, when you say "and they should always be linked", it's because I missed linking any work? --Pizca 05:07, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
It's just because I saw you say "I don't only use the quotation marks "sometimes". I use them when the title/artist is not linked." ~ Themonkeyofdoom 06:12, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
Oh, that. I was talking about the same you posted before "(unless the same page has been linked numerous times within an article)".--Pizca 13:28, 24 February 2010 (UTC)


Debut Album

"Again, "debut" only applies to the FIRST release of an artist"

If that's the case then why do all of these pages from these artists say "debut album" instead of "first full length album" like you wrote. Some of them even have the "Debut Album" tag that you supposedly said should only be used for first releases: LOVE PUNCH, TRUE, LISTEN TO MY HEART, KAELA, my name is AI, Beni, Baby Girl, SWEET 19 BLUES, MARS, etc. --Plisskin 19:17, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

In that case those should also be reworded. I remember this back in ThePPN, when people (including me) started to put "debut" to all the first releases of an artists (debut album, debut mini-album, debut single...) and all those were removed, because we realized that that word can only describe one moment (or more if we talk about re-debuts when an artist changes labels).
And BTW, I saw you talked about this into Themonkeyofdoom's page, but remember that I'm a sysop too--Pizca 23:17, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, I've noticed. Anyway, I will wait for Themonkeyofdoom to respond since I think this makes absolutely no sense, especially when everyone is doing the debut tag (Recently too. I've seen whats been going on in "Recent Changes") but only I get called out on it. No mod as ever told me not to add the debut tag, in fact when I first started here a mod added the debut tag on a page I was working on since I didn't know about it. And when a mod has edited a debut album page I was working on, they never deleted the tag and told me that was wrong. --Plisskin
In that case I would be wrong and I apologize. But I still think it makes perfect sense. And please, don't start again with the "only I get called...", because it's not true. You can take a look to my contributions page and see if the few changes I did on your edits are the only ones I've done. --Pizca 23:53, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
Well you did call me out, amongst other users doing the same thing I did, for the "Debut Album" tag so yes, it is true. Obviously you have done other edits since your a sysop and all, but I wasn't generally speaking about your contributions I was talking about this specific situation. --Plisskin 00:16, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
I called only you, because I have only seen you doing it. I said that because it's not the first time you point this, please be sure I'm not waiting for you to change your edits. Seriously.--Pizca 00:25, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
Are you serious? After I gave examples above showing you other people have been doing it and your going to say that? Dude, whatever. --Plisskin 00:36, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
Oh, God, Plisskin, when are those changes made?? I only look to the recent changes page... (And BTW, I'm not a "dude")--Pizca 00:36, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
Dude is slang, dude. Just like saying "Hey guys" to a group of people even if their is a girl there. I checked and someone today just did the same thing I did for Leyona's debut album One Blood (and it's in Recent Changes") but instead I'm the only one doing it? Riiiight. --Plisskin 00:41, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
Ok, I'm not going to talk anymore about this. Just to say that I did what I thought I had to do, point. --Pizca 00:45, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
Riiiiigght. Of course your not going to talk about it anymore, because you you have nothing else to go on; just like you telling me that were not suppose to use the debut album tag when it's not their first release, when that rule wasn't even decided on. Whatever. --Plisskin 00:51, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
Please play nice, lovelies. =) If you have any issues with a mod, it's best to bring it up with EXodius (or myself, if he doesn't mind). It can be worked out! ~ Wapiko 01:29, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
It doesn't mind, I guess Plisskin thinks I have something against him/her because it's the same story since he or I joined, can't remember. I tried a lot of times to explain that is not the case, but it's useless... --Pizca 01:37, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
I blocked Plisskin btw. Zeli17 01:39, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
Was really necessary? I guess I'm too bland to be the kind of mod that blocks people.
BTW, I've seen your talk page. Thanks :) --Pizca 01:46, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
I am confused right now. Do we only put "debut" to the first release of an artist?--FoxxyFuyumi 00:04, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
How about changing all the debut albums/singles and simply having a "Debut Release" category? Apply it to the first thing an artist released (whether it was a single, album, or digital release) as adding to both a single AND album seems to add much confusion (at least that's my understanding of this situation) --EXodius 00:09, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
That's a good idea EXodius! For me it's ok.-FoxxyFuyumi 00:15, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
I also think it's a great idea. If I wouldn't be with Seiko I would start right now --Pizca 00:25, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
Even if an artist released a few singles before an album, a lot of times it's still called a "debut album" by the label, media, etc. --Lambchopsuey 00:16, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
But it's not technically correct, at least as far as I know the meaning of the word.--Pizca 00:25, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
Personally I like the way it was done before. I didn't think it was confusing. But what if someone wants to view the debut albums on here? Or debut singles separately? They can't anymore if we abolish their tags. --Plisskin 00:22, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
I don't really think people browse those categories just for fun. Why to look to hundreds of titles just because they are some kind of debut? XD --Pizca 00:27, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
Saying "debut" for everyone's first release is kinda redundant if you ask me... Zeli17 00:29, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
Especially when the artist has like, three "debut" singles. XD But that's neither here nor there. ~ Wapiko 00:31, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
This is making too small, so I bring it here XD. What about keeping the Debut+format for all those first releases (I don't like it, but I can handle it) and add a "Category: Artist Debut" for the very first release of an artist/group?.--Pizca 00:33, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
That would make sense to me. I mean we need to kinda keep it as is just adjust it some. Zeli17 00:38, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
"Debut album" would still be technically correct though, even if it's not a first release. I don't know how to explain it. I wouldn't call Memorial address a "debut-mini album", though. --Lambchopsuey 00:59, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
I agree with Lambchopsuey with that, while it isn't a debut mini-album, I usually classify it as Ayu's first mini-album, not her debut mini...just seems so i don't know dumb to classify things that aren't exactly needing the word "debut" unless it's "THE FIRST THING" they released.Solarblade 01:36, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
Why don't you all go to the forums and make a thread or go to the community page, discussing in user talk pages is hard to follow. Personally, I agree with the format we are current using for "debut" things. There are debut indie and debut major to. For me, I count debut indie single/album as debut and when s/he/they goes/go major, count it as first major single/album, then second, third... For a lot of debut, count his/her/their first ever single/album/mini-album as "debut", for example May'n: she debuted as Nakabayashi May at 15 years-old, Crazy Crazy Crazy is her right debut single; years later, when she changed her stage name to May'n and moved to flying DOG, Diamond Crevasse / Iteza☆Gogo Kuji Don't be late is her re-debut single, I don't count it as a debut single; she released her first album May'n☆Street, so it's her right debut album and Styles is her first studio album. Don't know if my example is so confusing :D. --Seph 01:53, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
Well, Mei was far from being indie - she was on UNIVERSAL JAPAN from the start...but maybe that wasn't part of your same example. LOL ~ Wapiko 01:57, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
I'm too confused at the moment as to make a thread on the forum. I don't know if people agrees with my first, second, o none ideas XDD. It's been a long night here XD--Pizca 01:58, 4 April 2010 (UTC)


Bury the Hatchet

I'm sorry if I seemed rude earlier, I didn't think I was to be honest, but it obviously came across that way to make you feel like you were being attacked so that's my fault right there. But I did start getting visibly annoyed as the conversation went on because I feel like I get called out for things when everyone else is doing the same thing. But I really want to just bury the hatchet, apologize for any misunderstandings / rudeness, and move on because you and I are primarily the only ones that do the K-pop pages and I'd like to work with you more on that. --Plisskin 18:57, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

You put a smile on my face. Welcome back ^^ I felt really bad after seeing your ban, I never thought it was deserved in any way.
No problems, I can understand how sometimes one feels thinking they are changing they work just because. Now you are a sysop to (Yey! K-Pop power!! xD) so I reaaaaaaaaaaaaaally hope we could fix any problems through talk pages without misunderstandings. :D Welcome back again! --Pizca 19:02, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, I'm kinda new and need to learn a lot of things

I got your message about my mistakes. I'm sorry, I'm kinda new to these kind of things. I really appreciate your guiding, hope I can get better soon. But I have a few things to ask; how can I change pictures in an artist's main page? And if I can't find any info about the CD price, can I just skip it?. GN-0015

Please, don't feel sorry ^^. All the contributions to the wiki are very welcomed :D.
About the pictures, you mean to put a new one? or just to upload new versions? If it's the first I wrote a mini-guide for User:Pogo here. If you want to upload a new version, on the images pages, just after the Image history table, there's the link "Upload a new version of this file". The rest of the process is the same as in the link I told you above.
Yes, If you can't find prices just put the Catalog Code, and below the Tracklist. Good sites for prices are usually the artists official websites or labels but, just in case, here there's always a lot of info (and online stores can also be helpful).
Hope that could help, if you have any more questions please feel free to ask ^_^ --Pizca 21:47, 21 April 2010 (CDT)
I want to replace the picture in Misato Aki's page. You can see in the page that the picture is when she was promoting her single Life and Proud and I want to replace it with a new picture from her new album which is from now on. GN-0015
Go ahead then! As there is enough site on the page as to have more than one picture, leave that Life and Proud promo pic and upload a new one, like here.
And BTW, you can sign your entries on talk pages making click in the button with a little signature on it (second from right) you will see a "--~~~~", that would be your signature ^^.--Pizca 22:44, 21 April 2010 (CDT)
Oh, and remember, price and catalog codes go outside the small tags. If there's only one edition, then just forget about the small tag XD. Take a look to the changed I made on the Beatrip page, for correct song linking.--Pizca 22:50, 21 April 2010 (CDT)

Image categories

So you've probably noticed this but I have no idea what to categorize the pictures I upload. XD You seem fluent in this language, so teach me your ways =3 (Also, some of the ones in "promo images" don't look like a promo image...XD Therefore I am confused. ~ Wapiko 09:19, 28 April 2010 (CDT)

Basically a "Category:Promo Images" is any photo from an artist that is not a cover (album, magazine, photobook...). We could also differentiate proper promotional photos from those that aren't, but it would be nearly impossible to know some things like where has been shot each photo.
As for the rest, I made a category for the covers, here should be everything (I'm still thinking about creating a "Manga Cover" cat. and re-categorize those in "Book Cover", and the "Tape/Cassete Cover" and "PB/Photobook Cover" have to be merged)
I don't know what else.... Oh, when I'm categorizing the images I preview the "Category:"Name of the artist" Images" to know if exists, if not, I delete it. But you can also add that one, as there are a lot of links for that kind of category that have been not created.
I have recently created some categories like "Category:Anime/Manga Promo Images", "Category:Dorama Promo Images", "Category:Logo" or "Category:Wiki Images".
I don't think I'm forgetting anything.... but most probably I do XD --Pizca 09:40, 28 April 2010 (CDT)
I knew it.. XD I have also created to categories for posters, Category: Movie Poster and Category: Theater Poster--Pizca 09:43, 28 April 2010 (CDT)
Hey Pizca would it be OK to ask if you could make a category for screen shots (screencaps/videocaps, algo asi XD)? Isamu has uploaded some and I've uploaded some so I know there's gotta be more on here which I think makes it qualified for a category right? That is if there isn't already one but I don't think... and if there is just delete this embarrassing comment XD --Krazoom 20:06, 3 May 2010 (CDT)
There is already a category for it, Category: PV Shot. And it's not embarrassing, I actually asked for a new template that already exists on the forums XD--Pizca 20:45, 3 May 2010 (CDT)
Whoa I did not see that at all O_O. Must be going blind. haha but thanks for letting me know :D --Krazoom 11:24, 4 May 2010 (CDT)

Re-releases

I thought we had always categorized re-releases? We did it back on thePPN too. ~ Themonkeyofdoom 18:01, 30 May 2010 (CDT)

It seems we have in both ways. I don't remember that on ThePPN, actually I remember the opposite thing XD. I don't know, an album should be categorized for it's initial release. Sometimes labels like to make huge re-releases of their artists (Matsuda Seiko can be a good example) and that doesn't mean that that album was "released" x years later, it was just re-printed.--Pizca 18:18, 30 May 2010 (CDT)
I get what your saying, but I'm sure albums are printed not solely in the year they are released. It seems ridiculous that the copy of Tracy Chapman I bought a few years ago is the same printing from the original release in 1988; it's not a re-release but it's a newer printing. These re-released albums are standard releases with different prices, catalog numbers, and often they also have different tracklists, formats, charting information, and covers than the original. With all these differences with the release are they really the same as the inital release? ~ Themonkeyofdoom 18:59, 30 May 2010 (CDT)
For me, yes. XD I also get your point, but for me it's like if we categorize a dorama/film with the year of a rerun. Maybe they changed the opening, or the music, maybe the promotional images are different, but the "thing" it's the same. I agree that re-packaged albums must get their own dates, they usually even have a new title and are basically a new album, but for a simple re-release.... I can't change my mind, sorry XD --Pizca 03:19, 31 May 2010 (CDT)
A rerun of a TV show isn't the same thing as a re-issued/re-released album and I don't think it's fair to compare the two lol. I'm confused, your saying they are basically new albums, but they shouldn't be categorized that way? I guess I'll just gonna bring it up in the forums. ~ Themonkeyofdoom 03:58, 31 May 2010 (CDT)
No, sorry, my bad grammar I guess XD I mean this kind of re-packaged albums, which are not the same re-releases I'm thinking about.--Pizca 04:26, 31 May 2010 (CDT)

Release counting

We should be counting releases as a whole. I recently when through and did this to the immi's releases. As for the link you posted, it's her first with a new label and often their new labels will start a new count, but it doesn't change the fact that it is her third album. Same should go for indie releases. An artist can't have three "first" singles. So counting all of her singles, "Kaeranai Natsu to Kienai Ano Melody" should be her 14th single. Here's the format I've been going for. ~ Themonkeyofdoom 09:47, 4 June 2010 (CDT)

Yeah, I know that thing the labels do, and I hate it XD. For Takenaka's case her newest label has "supported" the Columbia counting, even her official page list the indies releases, but it seems her life as mawari has been erased XD.
I don't like too to have various "first" singles (the same way I always say an artist only can have one "debut release"), but I though it was going to be easier this way than "14th single, 8th under her real name, and 6th since she re-debuted as a major artist" XDD That's too long XD--Pizca 10:10, 4 June 2010 (CDT)
Oh, if you know a better way to describe the order tell me, because I'm going to go through the pages to make the B-sides, so I can change it.--Pizca 10:11, 4 June 2010 (CDT)
Maybe just do it like the LISA and Suzuki Ami releases. With the overall single count coming first then "(fourth KING RECORDS single)" or something like that. ~ Themonkeyofdoom 11:18, 4 June 2010 (CDT)


Narsha

Those changes I made were not "unnecessary". I uploaded a higher quality picture which you reverted to a lesser quality one, the Blood Type always needs to be linked, and the Take Care of the Young Lady OST 1.5 should be correctly titled Agassireul Butakhae Official Sound Track 1.5-- I made a page for the drama here which includes the correct title of that OST: Agassireul Butakhae. And since there's not really any information on Narsha's page other than 1 sentence, there really shouldn't be a second image there. --Plisskin 02:16, 13 July 2010 (CDT)

No, you have uploaded another picture, not a new version. Bigger quality or not. We don't need to have all the images as big as wallpapers, and the image that was already there is 1,200 × 900 pixels. Not to say much more representative for the mini-album. The Blood type doesn't need always to be linked, that's why there's a category for it. I can understand the change on that single title, but except for a couple of soundtracks you made all have English titles, that's why I reverted that, nothing else, for me it's fine in both ways.
There shouldn't be a second image there? Wow that's new Plisskin. So, how many lines needs each photo the be there? It's fine 5 lines per photo? No, if it's enough space it can be there, mostly for the big change in Narsha's image (That's why photos are here, to show us those changes). 2006 Narsha it's perfect.--Pizca 02:34, 13 July 2010 (CDT)
...in the world? I wasn't trying to be mean in my message so I don't know why your message is. Anyway, I'll be taking this up with a mod since you've just stated lots of opinion there and not facts. I also don't feel like going through yet another edit war with you because you want your image up there since according to you, it's more representative. --Plisskin 02:49, 13 July 2010 (CDT)
I think it's a good idea. And please, I think I already told you this once, take into consideration that English is not my native language, so the "tone" of what you reading may not be the same as the one I try to write. And BTW, I don't want my image to be there, really. And that's not fair coming from someone who replaces everyone else's images.--Pizca 03:17, 13 July 2010 (CDT)
I only came to that conclusion about your image since you replaced my higher quality one with a lower quality one and said it was unnecessary. And if I find a higher quality image I'm going to replace it, just like you and everyone else on this wiki have replaced images for a lot of pages. Uploading images of higher quality is encouraged so I don't know why your trying to make it seem like I'm the only one that does it and that it's a bad thing. I don't remember you telling me that English is not your language either, but compared to your conversations with other users you come off very combative to me. Anyway, yes a mod is a good idea. --Plisskin 03:31, 13 July 2010 (CDT)
Probably because you always take everything too personally XD. It's great to upload higher quality images, but if the image it's different from the one that it's already here it doesn't have to anything with it. That image you uploaded it's one of the concept photos, as well the one I did, so if you have a higher quality version, upload it. But what you do is replace those images with new ones, just because they have better resolution or bigger size doesn't mean that they are better, or deserve the most to be here. --Pizca 03:45, 13 July 2010 (CDT)
I don't really take too much personally. Just comments like "There shouldn't be a second image there? Wow that's new Plisskin." seems like your being sarcastic. I upload in png because the compression is better and I was told a while back as long as I delete the duplicate image it's fine. And as far as I know the higher the image quality (resolution, image size, etc.) the better. Oh and I contacted a mod so our disagreement will be solved soon. --Plisskin 04:37, 13 July 2010 (CDT)
Sarcastic? that can't be because a language barrier, it's just a misunderstanding. At least in Spanish that sounded nothing like sarcastic O_o.
You said it, duplicated image. The one you uploaded can't have a duplicate imaged because it was a different one. And sometimes (sorry, again...) bigger ≠ better.
BTW, you contacted a mod? by a PM? and how am I supposed to give my opinion? XD And.... "will be solved soon", disagreements between mods are not always solved XD--Pizca 04:56, 13 July 2010 (CDT)

I didn't say bigger is always better. What I was saying is that the image that is of higher quality is better: "And as far as I know the higher the image quality (resolution, image size, etc.) the better."

And don't worry, I told the mod to view your talk page and the Narsha page to see where both of us stand since we have pretty much stated our opinions here. If you want to re-state your opinion/add some things you can contact EXodius via PM or his page since that is who I PM'ed. I chose to do it by PM because I personally find the discussion page annoying when it gets drawn out this long. --Plisskin 05:11, 13 July 2010 (CDT)

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Can you delete this image for me

http://www.generasia.com/wiki/File:In_Focus%3F.jpg since its messed up and i re uploaded the image i don't know how to delete images on here (i don't think im allowed to) thank you in advance =)

Pikirumuzu04:16, 27 August 2012

Dona :)

Pizca14:17, 27 August 2012
 

thanks again ^^

Pikirumuzu18:45, 27 August 2012
 

Hi! Can you delete this image for me? File:428523 3797158541148 1545528246 n.jpg

Denadel16:44, 23 September 2013
 

Hello there! Sorry to get into the conversation, but I'm new here in generasia and am currently editing a page. Since I do not know well the dynamics of the site, I made ​​the mistake of uploading several images and now I don't know how to delete them ... can someone explain me how? Thanks! ^.^

Hangul2201:24, 29 August 2014
 

Generasia Standard pic is on Right or Left?

I see some was on the left , some on the right? Some even right and left. It so confuse.

Asked Pikirumuzu but what he claim is all what he say he edit this way.

Shujuan521007:48, 16 March 2014

Shes on hiatus. Idk why you are so worked up about such things (i'm a she btw). Like i said before look at other artist pages and you see what i did was correct. Thank you.

Pikirumuzu08:13, 16 March 2014
 

I did see other user and it all on the right. But not those page which you had edit. Why? Simple. Seen you edit it will always on left, right, left right. So to know more i will ask other admin as well..

Shujuan521008:28, 16 March 2014
 

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lgceybMTTY1qdxntz.gif Lol no it seems you have only looked at what you wished, keep looking at others and it will prove you wrong. If you wish i shall send you links on pages i have not worked on. I do what i was tolled since i joined the site and learned what i know seeing what others do. So what i do wrong is what i was taught by other Admin. So you are calling all of us wrong. Ask other admin if you wish. But you seem to be stubborn so if the tell you what i have tolled you, you will not believe them and keep asking and asking.

Pikirumuzu08:32, 16 March 2014
 

There are quite number of old page which is edit by some old not active admin. It on the right alignment. Only recently that is edit by you become left right alignment. Will you able to to show which admin say the standard of generasia for pic is left right alignment?

Shujuan521008:39, 16 March 2014
 

Like i said before it was many. Okay i will tell you this again due to i am tired of the edit warring. When you put a synonymous that is very long you add the images to the left and right. When you add images to the discography you add it to the right. Got it? Pages to help you understand (ones i have not and have worked on) T-ara, MAXIMUM THE HORMONE, ASIAN KUNG-FU GENERATION (very small Information so it only goes on right), After School, YUKI (singer) (never worked on her page), Chara (rarely work on her page unless for minor fixes), TVXQ (not the one that added images as such). Need anymore help?

Pikirumuzu08:49, 16 March 2014
 

Nevermind - I was mixed up, realized my mistake here. Apologies.

I was just wondering - I noticed some of the Morning Musume songs are now using the shoddy translations from Up-Front's badly translated subtitles. Was this done on purpose (to follow whatever UF is using, even if not that good?), and would I be going against some already-discussed change if I revert them back to more accurate translations?

Nayoko-Kihara06:12, 9 October 2013

For profiles

For the Coin Jackson profiles on the trivia. I got the trivia here http://www.tumblr.com/tagged/coin%20jackson where it says [Profile] Coin Jackson

Pikirumuzu14:52, 19 March 2013

I don't see that post, but that's not an official source, right?..... I use Daum, Naver and Nate, I usually crosscheck those three.

Pizca05:33, 20 March 2013
 

I used it cause it says its from "Coin Jackson International Forum". not sure if the forum is official or not but that was the only source i found in English that i could use =/

Pikirumuzu15:28, 20 March 2013
 

I'm sure it's not.... English sources are not always the most reliable as they are mostly done by fans. The data given by the pages I said earlier are really easy to translate or understand.

Pizca15:45, 20 March 2013
 

ive never been to those websites except Daum. i will from now on though since you says its easy to translate =) my Korean is not the best, its okay but not that great xD.

Pikirumuzu15:53, 20 March 2013
 

Hello. I was looking through BeBe Mignons profile and i think they might have disbanded. On their companys website http://www.ywhoenterprise.com/ it does not list them except Ben if you click on YWHOSTAR. And the members Hae Geum has not used her BeBe Mignion twitter since december and Ga Eul has not used hers since august 2011. But Bens debut album has BeBe Migion Ben written on it (http://www.generasia.com/wiki/File:1475.jpg), so maybe the two members left and the group is still there but only Ben is there and they might just be on hiatus.

Sorry its TL;DR xD but i just wanted to run this through you before i do something. (i really hope they didn't disband, they are a great group)

Pikirumuzu00:50, 25 March 2013
 

According to Korean Wikipedia they disbanded in 2011. I can't say much else, but as you said they no longer are under the label. It seems the other two had left and Ben has just took the group name to be recognized more easily. I bet Wikipedia is right.... our page has to change.

Pizca05:55, 25 March 2013
 

Oh, and BTW, I was curious about the new picture (two members, 2012) so I made a search. It's from 2010.

Pizca05:58, 25 March 2013
 

Thats sad to hear =(

Oh, i thought it was from 2012, i will try to find a more recent picture.

Pikirumuzu17:45, 25 March 2013
 

(not related lol) but i just want to apologize before hand. sorry i spam the recent changes xD im a fast typer and i make typos sometimes >.< also about what i did for the WG profiles .______. i hate internet rumors >.> but i am still not 100% sure if they broke up or not or if sun ye left (so confused) cause its all over the internet (wikipedia, allkpop, last fm, tumblr, youtube etc...) that they broke up or sun ye left due to her pregnancy so i just removed the info to be safe. anyway sorry for the spamming xD Hope you come back soon generasia misses u =3 Also thanks for all your help on this site and helping me out with my mistakes i make xD http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lu00ddXb641qgx5iwo1_500.gif

Pikirumuzu09:00, 12 April 2013
 

Sorry for being away. My life has been turn around for good reasons and I don't have much free time anymore. I'm not following any Kpop news so, do as you think you must do, I'm sure you will do right. Hopefully I will have free time soon. I'll be back!! :D

Pizca16:55, 13 April 2013
 

Thats great to hear you are doing well =) glad to hear you will be back ^^

I don't really follow news much also xD but i occasionally go on allkpop (even though they are very biased lol)

Pikirumuzu22:38, 13 April 2013
 

Not related but i was wondering something. How you can become an admin? I asked Foxxy but i am still wondering this. I would like to be one xD but idk if i can or not. Just wondering =) Thanks~

Sorry to bother you if you are busy =3 we all miss you here

Pikirumuzu02:53, 17 June 2013
 

Random Question

Hello ^^ i was wondering why the main page isn't being edited? like the Featured Article and Weekly Rankings. Ive been wondering that since i joined that site xD

Pikirumuzu17:54, 21 March 2013

Good question. The charts stopped being updated and so did the featured article.... A shame, the only hope it's to someone to make he charts again...

Pizca05:11, 22 March 2013
 

I really wanted to make the Featured Article however my english in not good to make that... I was going to talk with Tokyograph's webmaster to make some kind of announcement (lol) to search for good writers. What do you think?

~~FoxxyFuyumi14:30, 22 March 2013
 

i would love to help out ^ ^ just i cant cause the page is locked D=

Pikirumuzu17:02, 22 March 2013
 

The featured article doesn't need to much info on it. You can just copy & paste the introduction section of the artist page... So what do you think? we remove the charts, and we start doing a weekly featured artist???

Pikirumuzu, you just have to click on the red link "generasia:Featured article for 2013 week xx", then the article would be there.

Pizca20:21, 22 March 2013
 

Yeah but in the end we need to talk about a recent thing. like a release, event or something like that. That's why it's a featured artist lol

However i dont feel confortable doing it. but it's easy for a native english speaker xD

About the charts ... let me ask the webmaster if he puts some kind of announcement. probably someone steps in. I will check out if I can do the Oricon Weekly Rankings. I cant promise to always be aware but I'll try. I'm a little busy =\

~~FoxxyFuyumi20:45, 22 March 2013
 

@Pizca so do i just chose a random article? xD

Pikirumuzu20:52, 22 March 2013
 

P.S. i dont mind doing them every week =) i just need to know like do i chose popular ones? or just whatever lol. I would chose boram for this week since its her birthday xD (im a boram bias .3.)

Pikirumuzu20:54, 22 March 2013
 

As Foxxy said, we usually pick an artist that has a release that week. Take a look for the ones that have already being made, so we don't repeat those.

(I don't want to break your heart... but no, a birthday it's not enough... and the featured article should be about T-ara not a group member... aaaaaand... I think T-ara has already being featured once... -_-')

Pizca21:05, 22 March 2013
 

Okay i understand (its no problem xD i understand) i will pick one =) How about EvoL?

Pikirumuzu21:07, 22 March 2013
 

Hi. I don't know if you want me to answer but I think you should choose an artist that will make a release in that week. For example, next week Kis-My-Ft2, KARA, RADWIMPS, FTISLAND, Chosinsei, NICO Touches the Walls, KOKIA will release singles. FLOW, globe, m-flo will release albums.

And FUNKY MONKEY BABYS will release their last album. In this case, I would choose this one because it will be their last release.

But you choose what you want =) It's just to explain that you need to choose something "big" you know. On weeks that nothing it's going on... well you just choose something that you want xD

~~FoxxyFuyumi21:08, 22 March 2013
 

@FoxxyFuyumi i was thinking of EvoL =) Does that sound okay? but if not FUNKY MONKEY BABYS sounds really good since they are disbanding (are they?)

Pikirumuzu21:11, 22 March 2013
 

EvoL it's ok. However, since FUNKY MONKEY BABYS are disbanding I problably would choose that. It's their last chance to be featured on generasia LOL But Pikirumuzu feel free to do what you want really!

~~FoxxyFuyumi21:18, 22 March 2013
 

I will do FUNKY MONKEY BABYS since they are disbanding but their is not much info on their page =( can you tell me what the album is called (i guess its FUNKY MONKEY BABYS 6 lol) Thanks for the suggestions =) EvoL is gonna release another mini-album in the future (i hope so D=) but since that band is disbanding they need to be featured for a tribute ^ ^

Pikirumuzu21:21, 22 March 2013
 

Exactly ^^

I just updated their discography. Their last release will be a best album. I already added there.

~~FoxxyFuyumi21:37, 22 March 2013
 

okay thanks for all your help (both of you) i appreciate it ^^ i will start on it now =)

Pikirumuzu21:41, 22 March 2013
 

i made the page =) i hope its good ^^ also i make a new one every Sunday right?

Pikirumuzu21:57, 22 March 2013
 

Good job ^_^ You can actually make the next featured articles whenever you want. They would appear as soon as the new week begins.

Pizca22:02, 22 March 2013
 

Thank you =) i will make the next one when it appears ^^

Pikirumuzu22:05, 22 March 2013
 

Good job Pikirumuzu! I also made Oricon's ahaha. I am checking if everything is ok xD

If you need suggestions for your featured articles feel free to ask lol.

~~FoxxyFuyumi22:16, 22 March 2013
 

Thanks ^^ and i probably will ha ha xD since i mostly only keep up with releases of artist i listen to xD (i don't wanna be biased lol)

Pikirumuzu22:50, 22 March 2013
 

(dont want to start a new thread) Thanks for the help on the BeForU profiles =) the information about them confuses me xD cause its hard to find info about them.

Pikirumuzu21:20, 7 April 2013
 

I know, I found myself changing the pages three or four times before being sure of everything.

Pizca04:27, 8 April 2013
 

I dont know if i ask this to you (i dont know anyone on here other than you xD)

But i dont know if its supposed to be doing this, its just me, or its a glitch (idk if you call it a glitch... video game knowledge xD)

But when i make a page it wont let me copy and paste anymore or when it does it comes up as something like this (- See more at: http://www.generasia.com/wiki/Kaizo_Heno_Yakudo#sthash.xhC4fGma.dpuf (had to drag it))

Do you know whats going on?

And also i saw this page http://www.generasia.com/wiki/User:Unknown not really nice =/

Thanks again for your help =) sorry if im bugging you too much D= lol

Pikirumuzu06:36, 28 February 2013

It seems Foxxy is having the same issue. I saw her tweeting Tokyograph, but I don't have any more information. (See her post here). This morning I edited a couple of pages and everything seemed normal, but last night it also happened to me the "See more at...". I can't do much about it, Tokyograph is informed but it's been 2 weeks since his last tweet so... If you use Facebook you can try leaving a message on Generasia's page, that may help.


Oh.... Unknown.... he respawns once per year. It's the most annoying thing on Generasia, and the best way to deal with him it's pretending he doesn't exists XDDD

Pizca11:33, 28 February 2013
 

okay, hopefully they fix it soon. Sadly I don't have a Facebook xD (not much of a social media person lol)

I dont know why people do stuff like that =/ Can you ban him/her? o_O

Pikirumuzu11:38, 28 February 2013
 

He comes back with different usernames. It's a long story that began in thePPN, which means that it may go back to 2006 or 2007. If you have some free time grab some popcorn and read Wapiko's talk page. (First and last discussions)

Pizca11:49, 28 February 2013
 

Okay sure i will read it =3

I saw your post on the hyperactive users thread. Thank you for saying that ^^ it made my day *hugs you* im a girl btw xD

Do you think its best for me to take a break or limit my edits/pages?

Pikirumuzu11:51, 28 February 2013
 

Oh, I was convinced you were a boy. I'm sorry! *_*

In no way. Keep doing what you are doing, or whatever you want to do, cause nothing of it would harm the wiki.

Pizca11:53, 28 February 2013
 

Its okay no harm done =3

Okay i will =) glad i can help out~ If you need help with any specific page just tell me and i will help =)

Pikirumuzu11:57, 28 February 2013
 

i noticed it is fixed now ^^ do you know why it was happening?

Pikirumuzu10:05, 10 March 2013
 

I have no idea. I didn't even had the problem.

Pizca14:10, 10 March 2013
 

i saw this on D-Units offical facebook http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=348477388596864&set=a.262917017152902.55036.262892650488672&type=1&theater Janey said GP Basic has not disbanded just to show you a source ^^

Pikirumuzu17:45, 7 March 2013

Oh, it's ok. I actually just guessed they had disbanded because the TV show... I saw that interview on Soompi anyways. BTW, that's not the official Facebook. [1]

Pizca19:05, 7 March 2013
 

Okay just sending it to you to make sure ^^ sorry i thought it was official my bad >.<

Pikirumuzu11:55, 8 March 2013
 

Just Wondering

Do you add a different section for Cassettes? (like here: MELT-BANANA) Since those were only released on cassettes.

Pikirumuzu09:34, 2 March 2013

There is one in fact, here. I forgot about it with SAS pages. Thanks for the reminder XD

Pizca09:37, 2 March 2013
 

okay thanks ^w^

Pikirumuzu09:57, 2 March 2013
 

hello =3 i have an idea of creating a new category for boy/girl groups. Since so so so many are are debuting i was think we should make a category of what year they debuted in on their pages. Like for example we can do for 2NE1 Category:Korean Girl Groups 2009 Debut or something like that, or just something simple like Category:2009 Debut. We can do it for every artist or group as well if that would be good like for YUKI Category:Solo Japanese 2002 Debut Tell me what you think ^^ (sorry if im not good at putting my ideas into words well xD)

Pikirumuzu01:10, 21 February 2013

I've been thinking in something among those lines lately. I thought about including the year on the "Debut single/album" category, but you are right "Category:2009 Debut" would be more efficient since it would take us to the artist page.

About the other two... I'm not sure. I think it can be a little bit messy in the long run, and also I don't think that a "Debut" category should be separated by nationalities (I mean, we don't do it for Births, or bloodtype...).

I really think that the Year+Debut category it's a great great idea. For me you can go ahead with it. Oh! just remember one thing, the official debut year, as sometimes they debut earlier by participating on compilations or so, and they don't really "count" XD

Pizca05:28, 21 February 2013
 

okay sounds good =) i will start on it ^^

Pikirumuzu06:26, 21 February 2013
 

one other thing, should i put debuts on sub units? like BABYMETAL or 2Yoon, cause its not really a debut to me.

Pikirumuzu06:34, 21 February 2013
 

can you delte this page http://www.generasia.com/wiki/Category:2010_Debuts i messed up but cant change the name to Debut... idk why T_T

Pikirumuzu06:37, 21 February 2013
 

Since sub-units are side-projects of main groups... yeah, I also think that the main group is the one that debuts.

Pizca12:19, 21 February 2013
 

BTW, can you change the category "Debut" to "Debut by Year" and put that one into "People"?. I think it would look more clear whats inside at first glance.

Pizca12:24, 21 February 2013
 

it wont let me change the name unless you want me to change it on the pages so you can delete the Debut main page.

Pikirumuzu23:13, 21 February 2013
 

Yeah, I did not wanted to interfere while you were doing them so that's why I asked. I can do it myself if you don't want to.

Pizca05:25, 22 February 2013
 

I would appreciate that very much =) thank you~

Pikirumuzu05:35, 22 February 2013
 

Done. Now I'm wondering if group/band members should go with the same debut year as the group/band, or if we should go by their own solo debut year......

Pizca10:46, 22 February 2013
 

i went by their solo debut =) because with the group they are under the groups name. Like for example Boram debuted before T-ara but Eun Jung debuted with the Coffee House OST. Personally i dont count being featured as a debut.

Pikirumuzu21:06, 22 February 2013
 

Yeah, me neither. But I was thinking that it also sounds weird, for example, to have a "2012 Debut" category for a group member, if the group debuted 2 years earlier... Also we should consider that not only music should count for a debut. I mean, they maybe had not released something on their own, but as they have already debuted with the group they had probably been active on TV, or dramas and so.

I don't know, maybe your initial idea was better? Like separating group/bands from solo debuts?

Pizca21:57, 22 February 2013
 

that makes since, but i think it would be kinda confusing if we count their TV debut as a debut.

Pikirumuzu22:05, 22 February 2013
 

Yeah, I know, that's not what I meant. What I mean is that they have already debuted, not as singers on their own, but as group members which lead them to be active in different things.

Pizca10:01, 23 February 2013
 

Okay. Personally i think we should just have when they debuted on their own (with their own singles, album etc...).

Pikirumuzu10:10, 23 February 2013
 

But then it's confusing, unless we can state somehow that the category applies only to music.

Pizca10:13, 23 February 2013
 

i dont really know what to do then =/ what do you wanna do?

Pikirumuzu12:16, 23 February 2013
 

I'm checking Korean wikipedia for examples, and maybe the best way it's to take any kind of first feature / release as the debut date (except for those feat. xx). Like Eun Jung, her first film was in 1998, so that should be her debut year. You used 2010 based on her musical career and it's really confusing. Then, for the group/band members that have not being active on their own (or with some feat.xx), we should use their group debut year.

I think it's the best way...

Pizca12:46, 23 February 2013
 

okay sounds good to me =)

Pikirumuzu13:04, 23 February 2013
 

another question xD would starring in a commercial/advertisment or music video count as a debut?

and also do you half to put instrumental or karaoke versions under disambiguation? cause i see it on some pages like on Girl's Days song Na Eottae, while some i dont see any.

Pikirumuzu23:39, 23 February 2013
 

If they make a commercial or a music video they are debuting as models or actress, so I say yes. Many Japanese singers or actresses begin as magazine models, and that's a debut.

All the pages that have disambiguation sections, have the instrumentals there (at least those that I saw). However, that doesn't mean that there must be a disambiguation section always...

Pizca10:34, 24 February 2013
 

okay i think so as well =) thanks~

Pikirumuzu23:31, 24 February 2013
 

Dream Girl

Hey~

I saw you separated both chapter of SHINee's album into 2 pages, but wouldn't it be better to keep them in the same page? They're considered as the same album, so is that really necessary? When you have an album and its repackage you usually put both of them in 1 page, so imo it's kinda weird to have 2 pages for the same album.

LeeLeeNeko13:12, 19 February 2013

The thing is, it's not the same album. A repackaged album has the same tracklist with the addition of some bonus songs or contents (basically what would be released in the limited edition of an album in Japan), but this is different. Why they release two "mini-albums" instead of a regular one, that we would never know, but although they can, and should, be considered as a full album, each one of them are independent releases. Gavy NJ did it too with Glossy and Gavy Hyogwa (including repackaged versions for each one!). Younha did it with 3rd Album Part.A Peace Love & Ice Cream and 3rd Album Part.B Growing Season. SG Wannabe's SG Wannabe 7 Part.1 and SG Wannabe 7 Part.2. PSY has to release his second part of PSY 6 Gap Part.1. I can only think of two Japanese examples though, Ohashi Trio's L and R, and Matsuda Seiko's Love&Emotion Vol.1 and Love&Emotion Vol.2.

Pizca14:32, 19 February 2013
 

Okay I see, I agree concerning the different examples but I found that weird since this time both chapters are released so close to eachother (only 2 months), and that they have the same main title "Dream Girl". I thought it might be pretty confusing for the viewers to see 2 different pages for one album.

LeeLeeNeko14:43, 19 February 2013
 

Time frame doesn't affect the fact that they are two different releases. And.... well, they don't have the same title, they are just pretty alike.

I mean A BEST 2 -BLACK- and A BEST 2 -WHITE- got released on the same date, they have almost the same title, and both are part of the same project. Do you think they should be on the same page under the title A BEST 2?

Pizca15:53, 19 February 2013
 

Well actually I think both release have the same main title, "Dream Girl", and "The Misconceptions of You/Me" are just chapter titles. At least that's what I got from the explanation during the album's premiere. "A BEST 2 WHITE/BLACK" were never introduced as one album unlike "Dream Girl" which was said to be one big album split into 2 to emphasize its different styles/atmospheres. So no the "A BEST 2" albums shouldn't be on the same page of course.

Concerning the Korean albums you mentioned, I don't think the concept was the same since each time the second part most likely wasn't finished (or even announced/shown to the public) before months after the first one got released. The first part usually doesn't need the second part in that case (and vice versa), whereas this time there's no point listening to only one chapter since they complement each other (and in that way it ressembles more an album & its repackage than 2 different albums to me). The second chapter of "Dream Girl" is already done and recorded, the only thing that's missing is probably the music video/photoshoot since they're gonna change their style after the upcoming promotions but yeah. That's why I talked about the 2 months difference.

Then again I obviously get your point, I just thought it kinda ruined the original idea that both releases had to be taken together as 2 sides of 1 album, when usually the artists just use the part 1&2 randomly without a real link between the releases.

LeeLeeNeko21:16, 19 February 2013
 

Let's go by parts (and first of all excuse if anything sounds rude, not my intention, but not being really fluent makes me always look rude):


Well actually I think both release have the same main title, "Dream Girl", and "The Misconceptions of You/Me" are just chapter titles.

Sorry, what?. So you think each one of the releases has a different "chapter" title, but both of them have theme same title?


"A BEST 2 WHITE/BLACK" were never introduced as one album unlike "Dream Girl" which was said to be one big album split into 2 to emphasize its different styles/atmospheres.

Not one album, but they are part of the same project, which actually emphasize its different styles/atmospheres.


I don't think the concept was the same since each time the second part most likely wasn't finished (or even announced/shown to the public) before months after the first one got released

How could you know that? Why release something titled SG Wannabe 7 Part.1 if there's not going to be Part2. Or why to release 3rd Album Part.A when it's not going to be Part.B?


The first part usually doesn't need the second part in that case (and vice versa)

Once again, how could you know that? I mean, I understand you like SHINee and you are well informed, but that doesn't mean that the other artists just make random releases, without planning or without a meaning.


whereas this time there's no point listening to only one chapter since they complement each other

So then, there is no point in listening only one random song included on an album? I have to listen to both albums each time? Mandatory?


The second chapter of "Dream Girl" is already done and recorded, the only thing that's missing is probably the music video/photoshoot since they're gonna change their style after the upcoming promotions but yeah. That's why I talked about the 2 months difference.

Once again it's an opinion. Just because some of the albums I gave as example are months away from each other, doesn't mean they were not recorded, produced, whatever, at the same time. However, all of this doesn't matter, because as I said time frame doesn't affect what they are.


I just thought it kinda ruined the original idea that both releases had to be taken together as 2 sides of 1 album

Fine, do it, and I hope everybody does that too. Generasia is just a database, and all that information is already stated on the page of the album. With that information on hand, now it's the listener turn to do whatever they want to do.


when usually the artists just use the part 1&2 randomly without a real link between the releases.

Once again, your opinion. And this one is actually quite not pretty for the artists.


Sorry, but I'm not going to change my mind, and unless another mod comes here to tell me I'm wrong, it's going to stay that way because I strongly believe that it's right.

Pizca06:06, 20 February 2013
 

Okay I'm gonna answer by parts too lol. I don't really mind at all if you sound rude, we're just arguing.

"Sorry, what?. So you think each one of the releases has a different "chapter" title, but both of them have theme same title?"
Well yes, they introduced the album as "Dream Girl" and "The Misconceptions of You/Me" are just chapter titles. When they talk about the whole release they say "Vol.3 Dream Girl" and when they talk about the chapters they say "The chapter 1 of Dream Girl, "The Misconceptions of You"". They did that during the premiere and they just did it again during a showcase that was held an hour ago. So creating 2 pages for 1 album sounds actually weird to me.

"Not one album, but they are part of the same project, which actually emphasize its different styles/atmospheres."
Yeah, but the fact that it's a "project" and not 1 album makes the whole difference. Ayumi also recently had her 15th anniversary project with 5 corresponding releases, obviously you wouldn't put all of them on the same page. You can find tons of other examples, like Kumi's 12-single project. It's completely different from "Dream Girl" which is not a project, just one album. I think putting both chapters of the album in one "Dream Girl" page wouldn't look bad, actually the idea would be the same as the one for an album+its repackage, since it's basically 2 corresponding releases.

"How could you know that? Why release something titled SG Wannabe 7 Part.1 if there's not going to be Part2. Or why to release 3rd Album Part.A when it's not going to be Part.B?"
Obviously a Part.2 was coming after they released Part.1, I wasn't talking about that. I was just saying the Part.2 usually doesn't really complement the first one (in my opinion I admit, I'm not saying the concept sucks), what's more I'm pretty sure SG Wannabe 7's part.1 was introduced as a mini-album and part.2 as another one, I don't know about Younha's though. But they're emphasizing the fact that "Dream Girl" is ONE album with 2 chapters more than any Korean artist I know did before. If they wanted to separate them they wouldn't have the same main title.

"So then, there is no point in listening only one random song included on an album? I have to listen to both albums each time? Mandatory?"
I didn't say it was mandatory, and no I never said you couldn't listen to only one album evidently. I just meant that if you want to judge the album, you have to listen to both chapters logically. If you just judge it from the first chapter you could say it lacks darker songs/ballads when it was actually the whole point of the release to separate the styles/atmospheres. When I listen to the examples you gave I don't feel like there's a connection of that sort but I agree once again it's just an opinion, I have no other choice than telling my opinion if I want the page to be changed.

"Fine, do it, and I hope everybody does that too. Generasia is just a database, and all that information is already stated on the page of the album. With that information on hand, now it's the listener turn to do whatever they want to do."
I almost thought you told me to put both chapters in the same page lol.

"Sorry, but I'm not going to change my mind, and unless another mod comes here to tell me I'm wrong, it's going to stay that way because I strongly believe that it's right."
I just thought it was a shame, I understand you're a mod but as you probably know I spent ages helping the database grow by uploading informations about each song SHINee released, creating pages for their albums etc. Of course I didn't need to do that, wasn't asked whatsoever, and you did WAY more (you always spend time verifying all the new pages), I just thought that since I did so much to help everything be complete on SHINee's section I could tell you my advice about their new album, and especially that you could think about it. I did everything just for generasia, not to be acclaimed or whatever since my username isn't written anywhere, so I feel sad that I have no way of convincing you. I do respect your advice (I didn't change the page or whatever), I don't want to do whatever I want on this database, but it's a shame that whatever I say you always have the last word because you're a mod, since you said only another mod could possibly influence you.

LeeLeeNeko13:22, 20 February 2013
 

By the way I'm also sorry if I sound rude, English isn't my mother language either!

LeeLeeNeko13:24, 20 February 2013
 

Delete page

Hi there, I just wanted to ask you if you could delete this page please: http://www.generasia.com/wiki/Sung_A

I wanted to make this page: http://www.generasia.com/wiki/Sungah be moved to "Sung A" but I thought you had to make the new page and then move it, and it seems I messed up and it wouldn't let me move it. My bad D:

Milks20:36, 17 January 2013

or perhaps you could delete the Sungah page instead? I'm really new to this moving page thing and I feel just dumb right now >.<

Milks20:39, 17 January 2013
 

So do you want "Sungah" to be deleted is that it?

~~FoxxyFuyumi21:02, 17 January 2013
 

Yes please ^^ This is a better idea since its easier to do, thank you so much :)

Milks21:07, 17 January 2013
 

OH PIZCA.......

Please read my forum thread and my user page cause an intelligent man much like myself has a lot of things to say about the PPN (this site will always be the PPN to me). Much like Martin Luther a true revolutionary, I am here to tell you a revolution and reformation...... would serve this site well :)

Unknown14:43, 5 January 2013

Images not appearing

Hey Pizca~

I don't know why but the pictures I uploaded for Kyarypamyupamyu's new single won't show (except if you actually open the full size)... I tried uploading one of them again after re-saving them in JPG with Photoshop but it still won't show. Maybe it's due to the fact I put "%" in the pictures' titles ? I really don't know lol.

edit : oops forgot to add the link http://www.generasia.com/wiki/Kimi_ni_100_Percent_/_Furisodation

LeeLeeNeko19:38, 2 December 2012

Yes, that's probably the reason. When pictures contain on their names special characters they don't show up when they are linked, sometimes you can't even access the actual page. Use "Percent" as the single page, and there would be not problem.

BTW, I'm going to delete those three "100%" photos, so there is no confusion.

Pizca05:56, 3 December 2012
 

Okay, I re-uploaded the files with different names and it works now. Thanks! ^^

LeeLeeNeko11:20, 3 December 2012
 

delete image

I accidently uploaded an image of the wrong person on here http://www.generasia.com/wiki/File:LookYeWon.jpg i replaced it with the right one but can you delete the other one (animal print one) thank you =)

Pikirumuzu04:34, 4 October 2012

Done ^^

Pizca14:52, 4 October 2012
 

thanks =)

Pikirumuzu00:35, 5 October 2012
 

can you delete the smaller duplicate files for this image http://www.generasia.com/wiki/File:UJin.jpg thank you in advance =)

Pikirumuzu20:56, 1 November 2012
 

Done ^_^

Pizca08:02, 2 November 2012
 

thanks a bunch =)

Pikirumuzu00:38, 3 November 2012
 

sorry for asking this again xD can you delete all these images http://www.generasia.com/wiki/File:babymetal.jpg (so their is no page for those images anymore) im going to reupload the images (bigger and better quality) and link the correct images to the right songs (like DokiDokiMorningPromo etc...) thanks ^_^

Pikirumuzu22:41, 11 November 2012
 

Done... again xD

Pizca11:51, 12 November 2012
 

thank you again ^_^

Pikirumuzu20:32, 12 November 2012
 

I checked the style guidelines and on the section "Capital Letters", they dont refer brand names. I also searched for "quotes" and "brand names" on the forum, i saw all posts and I didn't see... I also checked your talk page: I saw "Formatting of titles" but nothing about brand names.

Can you redirect me to the place you saw that rule, please?

~~FoxxyFuyumi14:38, 6 November 2012

It's not a wiki rule, it's a grammatical rule. I can't find any specific about quotation marks, as it's not usual to use them, but I guess we could use this as reference. A native speaker may be able to explain it better...

About the capitalization, here. However, I don't understand the problem with capitalize a brand name, we, and YOU, always do that.....

Pizca14:49, 6 November 2012
 

Wait... are you thinking about capitalization in like: SAMSUNG, instead of Samsung?

BTW; the 180px on Bow & Arrows page doesn't work with your res.?

Pizca14:51, 6 November 2012
 

Yes I thought like this: SAMSUNG. I have always used quotes and I'm not the only one... That's why I was surprised when you mention it, and just now...

The 180px-180px interferes with the information section, because of the "twitter/facebook/google+/sharethis" thing at the top of the page. And now I am using my laptop (resolution:1280x800).

~~FoxxyFuyumi16:04, 6 November 2012
 

Those buttons... how much I hate them... -_-

I didn't said Capital letters, but capitalization. However, now I understand the confusion xD.

About the quotes, I don't think I have seen anyone using them for brand names. Just take any article on papers or magazines, they never use them.

Pizca16:28, 6 November 2012
 

No I' am not the only one, I have seen it many times 1, 2. So instead of Lion "Ban Powder Spray", I have to write like this: Lion Ban Powder Spray? or when it's "music.jp" I have to write Music.jp?

~~FoxxyFuyumi19:06, 6 November 2012
 

I was actually thinking outside the wiki. I meant that I have never seen using quotes for brands in any king of "reading" (Internet or not).

And yes, Lion Ban Powder Spray, that's how you supposedly must write it. However, the lower case of the "m" of music.jp is kind of a trademark, so no need to capitalize those. The same you don't see Iphone instead of iPhone.

If you still have any kind of doubts about the quotes, go to any kind of website where they name a product, and I'm certain you will not see: The new product of "Nivea", The new phone of "Apple", etc... They are proper nouns, and the same you don't put between quotes someone's name ("Hamasaki Ayumi"'s album, "Picasso"'s painting), brand names don't get them neither.

Pizca20:51, 6 November 2012
 

My I ask why do you revert my edit here? I'm not here to vandalize anything, and there's quite a few source for my edit (Sports Nippon, Excite, ASCII, Rina's blog entry, their official Twitter) If it was Engrish or something like that, than may I ask you to put it back to the article with correct wording? Thanks

Sillent DX09:17, 25 October 2012

I did not reverted your edit, I just moved it to it's correct place. As it was information regarding the B-side, and there's a page for it, I moved it there.

In any case the "Category: CM Theme Song" it HAD to be removed, as the single' pages only must feature categories regarding the single or the title track, but never about the B-sides.

Pizca09:22, 25 October 2012
 

their is an album i am working on it has ALOT of songs over 100 songs and most of them is interludes and introductions do i link those songs or not? thanks for help =)

Pikirumuzu22:41, 29 September 2012

I'm not quite sure what are you talking about, what album?

may you repeat the question please? I'm sorry....

Pizca06:51, 30 September 2012
 

OK, just seen it. Yep, talking tracks, interludes don't need to be linked. ALSO, when making soundtrack albums full instrumental songs don't need either to be linked (1).

BTW, I think those albums should have the "Category: 20xx Soundtrack", instead of "Category: Character Albums", since they don't feature all character songs, but music in general from the anime.

Pizca07:01, 30 September 2012
 

Not related, but remember that the year of the release must go with the DVD, Blu-ray, Soundtrack, etc... categories. Don't use those alone.

Pizca07:13, 30 September 2012
 

Okay thanks for the help =) sorry i didnt reply earlier i wasn't on >.< also thanks for finding a real life picture of DEATH DEVIL, I couldn't find one anywhere.

Pikirumuzu07:43, 30 September 2012
 

It was just good luck. I searched the other day and nothing came up. :D

Pizca07:44, 30 September 2012
 

never mind i was on lol xD i just didn't see the response (didnt get a new message thing)

Pikirumuzu07:44, 30 September 2012
 

I'm sorry to intrude xD I normally link interludes because even without lyrics there are composition and arrangements. That's how i think...

~~FoxxyFuyumi12:12, 30 September 2012
 

Sure, in regular albums I usually link everything except for talking tracks. However, I thought we were just talking about the soundtrack albums...

Pizca13:10, 30 September 2012
 

same here, i link everything unless its people talking or interludes

Pikirumuzu21:19, 30 September 2012
 

Split Singles

Hola Pizca. Vi lo que hiciste en la página de los Beat Crusaders con los split singles. y es una buena idea porque yo hago de una manera diferente. Ahora quería cambiar las páginas de Shota y Miliyah. pero tengo una pregunta: tomando el caso del single "wo ai ni", sólo hiciste esto en la página de los beat crusaders e no en la página de Hitomi Takahashi. Creo que también debería hacer en la página della no? en otras palabras, poner la sección (split singles) para ella. Mi español no es muy bueno, pero espero que entiendas lol Besos*

~~FoxxyFuyumi13:52, 27 September 2012

Wow O_o tu Español es perfecto!!!!! Yo te respondo también en Español, si no entiendes algo, pregúntame ^^

Realmente es algo que solo he hecho en páginas de artistas que tienen suficientes "split-singles/mini-albums". Utilicé algo así como el razonamiento que usamos para hacer una sección de "Best/Live/Cover Album" vs. "Other Albums". Dicho esto, a mi me gusta mucho la idea, no solo para quien tiene muchas de estas releases, sino para cualquier artista, aunque solo tenga un "split". Creo que se ve más claro y resulta menos confuso con un simple vistazo a su discografía, y a la hora de contar cuantos singles tiene.

Por cierto, también lo hice aquí de una manera algo diferente, pero creo que la pagina de BEAT CRUSADERS queda mejor estéticamente.

Pizca14:50, 27 September 2012
 

Ok. Tambien creo que es mejor como esta en la página de Beat Crusaders. También voy a hacerlo. Asi es más fácil para que la gente vea... Gracias Piz =)

~~FoxxyFuyumi21:17, 27 September 2012
 

Original songs ?

Hey Pizca !

I saw you deleted some informations on the pages I made for SHINee's songs (UP & DOWN, LUCIFER). I think you deleted the "Original Titles", "Original Writers", and "Original Publisher" informations (which are most likely the informations of the demo they used to make the song)... Is it forbidden to post those ? :o

Anyway bye :D

LeeLeeNeko20:10, 30 August 2012

Hi :D It's not that... The info of the original demo, belongs to that demo, not to the tracks itself. I'm not sure how to explain it... IMO, it would be like putting the info of the original song, when you are making the page of a covered song.

Pizca22:11, 30 August 2012
 

Oh okay, I get it. :) I just thought it was quite interesting to know the title & a few informations about the original demo so I included it. Thanks for the answer~!

LeeLeeNeko22:16, 30 August 2012
 

This was my first page creation, and I wasn't sure who to ask about looking it over, or how to find the Oricon Profile link.

Risuzu16:38, 4 August 2012

You welcome ^^. Do you need help for future pages?

Pizca17:21, 4 August 2012
 

I'm about to create the page for her second single. Maybe when that's done you can look it over? (I have all of her singles and albums, but I'll do the rest later.)

Risuzu17:29, 4 August 2012
 

Sure, go ahead! :D

And welcome to generasia!!!

Pizca17:37, 4 August 2012
 

What should I do for tracks where I don't know the romaji titles? Should I just use the kanji?

Risuzu18:02, 4 August 2012
 

No, don't use Kanji titles. If you don't know the romanization there are some sites that can help, like this one.

Pizca18:47, 4 August 2012
 

Hello. Could you give me a few suggestions so I don't make so many mistakes?:)

Risuzu13:57, 11 August 2012
 

Sure, but I'm not sure what mistakes did you made... Mmmm I think I have only changed the song links, right? Well, the releases have to be linked without any king of stylization (is that a word? XD) So, for example "I need you for my life" should be linked as "I Need You for My Life". This includes capital letters, or symbols. If you have any kind of trouble with anything let me know, but you did a great job ^^

Pizca14:02, 11 August 2012
 

I created a page for Takaoka Ai's "acoustic love" album. It may need a minor edit, but I'm not sure how to fix it. There's a track with same title as album, and it's in bold.

Risuzu16:38, 12 August 2012
 

It's easy to fix. Link the song as "Acoustic Love (song)". There are many times when an artist has more than one release with the same name, so you have to put the format in brackets. Some examples:


I forgot, ""Acoustic Love" was not released as a single, if so, it would have to be linked to ""Acoustic Love (single)".

Pizca17:44, 12 August 2012
 

Sorry for annoying you with so many questions. I have another. I'm working on a new page for a band, but I can't find a good romanization for the band members, and the romaji converter isn't working well with names. Should I just leave out the members section and let someone else add it later?

Risuzu19:25, 12 August 2012
 

Don't worry about questions ^^

Kanji may be difficult yeah. You can do three things, as you said, leave the names in Kanji and let anyone translate them, separate surname and name and search for coincidences on generasia, or check their Wikipedia.jp page as they always put the Kana next the Kanjis.

Pizca23:16, 12 August 2012
 
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