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Thanks

Hey thanks for putting up the png ver of the chocolate love cover that I uploaded.. I could not figure out why it kept showing up so blurry no matter what I did so I just reupped it as jpg XD haha idk what you did but it worked.. It was even blurry in the images main page. Krazoom 09:23, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Categories

Hello, I've seen many of your uploaded covers and none of them were categorized, please remember to do it. Two categories are needed for every cover "Category: Single/album/Mini-album Cover" and "Category:CD/Digital Cover".
Also, and this is only my opinion but I think it's always better, it would be great if you could upload in jpg better than always png, since the former is more common and it's always easier to upload a new versions of the files ^^. Thank you.--Pizca 17:34, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I'll remember to do that. But as far as uploading in jpg the image quality is lower, that's why I do png... --Plisskin 17:38, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
Sorry but are you really teling me that this [1] has better quality than this [2]? I didn't revert your changes on that page because I don't want to get in a fight about "my image is better than yours" but your PNG is smaller in pixels and bigger in size (in comparison). And BTW I still don't get why you changed it. --Pizca 17:52, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
Whoa, chill. I'm not trying to get in a fight either. I don't know how you got that from my post, to me I wasn't rude in any way. I was just saying when I upload images in jpeg on MY computer the quality turns out horrible when I do, that's why I do png. And I had changed that particular image because yours looks sharpened way too much and I didn't think it looked good. --Plisskin 18:01, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
I know you wasn't rude, I was talking about "fights" because I know there have been many with users that think their images are better than anyone else's, and they are always changing the existent for theirs. I wasn't talking specifically about you ^^. About the pics, if it's something that happens in YOUR computer, that has nothing to do with the wiki. And seriously, the image looks awesome XD. That's what is called high quality. Nothing else. You should check it in another computer, because maybe that's the main problem. --Pizca 18:47, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
Remember, two categories for the covers, Album/Single/Mini-Album AND CD/Digital for physical or digital releases.--Pizca 18:53, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Some notes

The proper format here is to have the song and release titles written in this order: [[Romaji]] (Kana/Hangual; Translation). I know some Korean releases have an official translated title instead of a romaji one which is used, but they should still follow the same format: [[Title]] (Hangual). Song pages should be linked.

Next time you have an issue with a title, bring it up on the talk page before just moving it. We won't deal with the "Blooming" situation again. I've seen that KARA mini-album label as Rock U before, and I'm sure Pizca had a reason for moving it.

When we have an image in .jpg format, please don't upload the same image in .png format. There is no reason to have two of the same images floating around. ~ Themonkeyofdoom 18:29, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

I've seen it labeled that way as well on English sites, and it's still wrong. All of the Korean sites say the album is called "1st Mini Album". I even own that album and on the spine of the CD it is "Kara- 1st Mini Album", not "Rock U". "Rock U" is the song they used to promote the album with. Somehow with overseas fans they began labeling it that way and it went viral on the majority of English information sites. Like with the "Blooming situation", I'm not wrong. If you don't believe me I can take a picture of the CD and post it here. Also, I don't see anyone else bringing up title issues on the talk page before moving it. As far as I know Pizca didn't when he moved the original , so I don't see why I have to. With the images, I upload in .png format because .jpg is of lower quality. When I upload images I want them to be of higher quality, hence me re-uploading the same image. I know that songs need to be linked, but I don't understand why every single song needs to be linked unless it was previously released, such as with Kara's Revolution page. The only song that should be linked is "Same Heart" since it was already released digitally and has info/page about it. The other songs will remain as dead links or in other words no pages for them. I thought wiki.theppn wanted to refrain from pages with dead links that why I only had "Same Heart" linked. As far as that other stuff you mentioned, fine I'll start doing that then. --Plisskin 20:38, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
Honestly, the reason I'm saying you should bring it up on the talk page is based on your own personal edit history. I could see the situation turning into another edit war, and I'm just bring up ways to prevent those types of situations from happening. Even though your "not wrong", I feel like they could be handled better.
As for linking songs, we do have the same policy as the thePPN, which is to keep those links open. Song pages can be created for non-single tracks and contain information such as lyrics, music, arrangement, and instrument credits, as well as concert and TV performances, and lists of different versions of the songs (exapmles: these albums all have complete song pages, and hopefully more will follow).
As Pizca brought up, most of the replaced images havn't really been that much better of quality. I know you want to upload the best quality images you can find, but just try not to upload tons of duplicate images. If that situation does happen, please place the {{delete}} tag on the old image so we know to delete it. ~ Themonkeyofdoom 21:34, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

The only reason why I've been involved in "edit wars" was because I would correct something like in the "First Bloooooming" situation, but then the other user, thinking they are right, would keep changing it and then I would change it again, etc. I hardly see how that's my fault. But you and anyone else is free to feel that it is; there's no changing that. I'm not going to bring anything to the talk page since it's time consuming waiting on a reply, it's not fair that I'm subjected to do it when no one else does, and based on my personal edit history I didn't start anything. And yes, I was not wrong.


I didn't know about the {{delete}} tag. There is no known place listing certain codes like these. If there is point me in the right direction. That's why I would just leave the .jpg images. Since I know about it now, I'll do it. And about the .png file format, many of the .jpg images here appear very over sharpened and are low in quality, especially when the pictures are minimized on a wiki page; the quality may be high when its in its original enlarged format, but when its minimized the quality is bad. In the .png format it doesn't do this. That's why I do .png and I will continue to do .png.

As for the Kara page here's proof: File:http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y13/brilliantstring/Proof/1stminialbum.png, File:http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y13/brilliantstring/Proof/1stminialbum2.png

Notice how it says "1st Mini Album" and not "Rock U" for the album title. If you need more proof let me know. --Plisskin 22:57, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

PNG's have a better compression quality than JPG's, but there is no point in replacing a JPG with a PNG. Most of the time, the original pictures that you save when you right-click on them are JPG's anyway, aren't they? If you convert them from JPG to PNG, then you're just wasting kilobytes because the images aren't magically going to increase in quality (unless you cleaned up artifacts or something, but JPG's that are of photos are still capable of looking HQ with little to barely noticeable artifacts if you're saving it using the highest quality). It's like converting a 128kbps MP3 to a 320kbps one; i.e., useless. --Lambchopsuey 21:45, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
Plisskin, I'm trying trying to prevent these edit wars from happening. You seem to often be in the middle of them, and that is why I'm addressing it to you, but I'm not blamming them on you. You should talk to other user with respect and provide sources instead of just saying something like "I'm right, everyone knows it's called this. I've never seen anyone who that it was called that before." Rock U vs 1st Mini-Album, I didn't revert it, and I wasn't asking for proof, I was just saying. Even if your right, you can address the situation in a better manor. As for the delete tag, I figured you didn't know about it, so I let you know. Duplicated images; I can think of several, but I don't feel like digging them up. Once again just letting you know, duplicated images will be deleted. ~ Themonkeyofdoom 23:53, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

I haven't been in a lot of edit wars like your making it out. And I've always treated users in a respectful manner as long as they treat me in a respectful manner. If they don't then I'm not. I've even provided sources but some people don't like my sources or explanations regardless, and revert my corrections. The only time I said "I am right", was previously above when I was talking about "The First Bloooooming" page, which I was right. I know you didn't ask for proof. I posted those images to show you that the album isn't called "Rock U", and for it to revert back since that's the correct title. It's fine, I don't really care anymore about this.

I know the "proper formats" that you addressed earlier now so there should be no more problem as far as that. I'm done. --Plisskin 00:34, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Some things have happend once, other multiple times. I'm just pointing them out and let you know ways to improve them. As for the mini-album title, I never did say Pizca was correct on the issue. You provided significante sources stating the album is called 1st Mini-Album so that is how it shall stay. ~ Themonkeyofdoom 00:44, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

When linking the longer works, you just use Italics. Then use the quotes for the shorter works. Oh and if you make a mistake on the page title, instead of redirect the page and making the correct one, you can just move the page to the correct title by using the "Move" button which is under the arrow at the top of the page. ~ Themonkeyofdoom 16:35, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Into the new world

Thanks for the correction, I have only seen it written in Hangul in all the online stores. Is spelled like that along with Hangul in the psychical release? Or only like that? Because if it's the first one, the Hangul must be removed. --Pizca 21:07, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Yes. On all physical releases it is written like "Into the new world (다시 만난 세계)". Unfortunately, you can't always trust the online stores. I've seen them miss spell many album tracks and miss name album titles before :( --Plisskin 21:13, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, I know, but it's the best I can do xD. I prefer to trust online stores (melon, monkey, cyworld, musicon..), than blogs or forums. Thank you ^^--Pizca 21:17, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
I understand. When I don't own a copy of a cd I go to those same places too. And your welcome. --Plisskin 21:27, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Korean Releases

Why are you suddenly changing the English titles to Konglish? --Pizca 05:19, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

I'm applying the same format that is used with Japanese song titles. All other pages be it Chinese or Taiwanese artists also use that format, so I see no reason why Korean artists shouldn't. --Plisskin 05:23, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
I don't remember where I saw it, but this has already been discussed. I think this should be talked with the mods, since almost all the Korean releases are in English and it would be not fair only to change a few of them.
Apart of that, Korean releases are in English because most of the time come with English titles, as Girls' Generation mini album Genie. The "Genie" is the English title of the song, not something to add to the Konglish. The same that happens with some Japanese releases.
I think we should talk about this in the forum--Pizca 05:32, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
No there not. Those examples you gave, such as the Girls' Generation mini-album, is not in English. The official title is in Korean, just like this new digital single 2NE1 has released, which can be seen on the digital cover: it's written in Korean. Your confusing online translations done by fans as the official title, which it is not. And I'm not trying to change a few of them. I'm trying to change as many as I can but I'm only one person. But we can discuss this with a mod, at the forum, or both. When your ready PM me. --Plisskin 05:38, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
I'm making a post in the forum... Well, what I mean was about the "Genie" in brackets, what I've seen always in Korean websites as the official English translations for the titles. BTW, I'm not going to doubt you are trying to change "all", but you started with Girls' Generation, which it seemed to be a little bit biased XD--Pizca 05:46, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
Korean websites never post an official translation for their releases. That "Genie" in the brackets is not an official English translation since the album title is longer than that. They just listed the title of the album wrong. Like Kara's The First Bloooooming, Korean websites just write "Blooming" when they post the album, not because it was an official translation; it's already in English. I have no idea why they do that but my guess is that they don't want to write that long title. Regardless, it's wrong. They even did that with Kara's 1st Mini Album, which they titled "Rock You", which is wrong. Which is why I said previously you can't always trust online Korean websites because they get the name of releases wrong quite a lot. And I started with Girls' Generation because I was (and still) working on their page. You can see that by looking at the information I added today in their "Information" section. --Plisskin 05:59, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
So, now you are using translations?
Also I wanted to tell you, when an artist is featured in other artists single/album, his name has to appear before the name of the release. You removed those from Girls' Generation's member pages.--Pizca 13:55, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
After all of the romanizations I've done on song pages you just had to pick on the one that I used a translation for. So you think your pointing out me being hypocritical? Well I'm not. If that was the case I wouldn't have used the format on the album title then. I just couldn't find the romanization so I left it like that for now. If you can find the romanization then be my guest and change it. But I don't see how your the one to talk when you don't romanize the Korean releases for Tohoshinki. As far as the release bit, I removed those from only 2 members of Girls' Generation, since I thought it was wrong. Themonkeyofdoom corrected that on Jessica's page and I took the hint. I was planning on re-adding that to Taeyeon's so there's no need to link to four different pages. I don't need those examples. --Plisskin 14:57, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
I was trying to show you examples, I don't think there's anything wrong with what I've done. And no, I'm not calling you hypocritical. I was surprised to see you making those two pages with English translations after how you have been defending the idea of removing all the English translations from Korean releases. And again no, I didn't pick that pages on purpose, in fact I was going to make them when I saw it.
And BTW, Themonkeyofdoom, never did that on Jessica's page, at least not what I was talking about. In fact you removed the artists of Tayon's page 3 days after Themonkeyofdoom's last edit on Jessica's page.
It's great you don't need examples, I guess that make you smarter than I am, because you sure give a lot of them.--Pizca 18:36, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
you sure give a lot of them. Am I'm suppose to feel bad about that? I was making my point for other users to see a small portion of the loads of Korean song pages on this wiki that don't have official English translations, because you were saying, among other reasons, that the majority come with official English translations and they don't; hence examples. I don't care about people showing me examples, but if I know it already I'm going to say I know it/saw my mistake and I don't need it. Maybe I should have put a smiley face of some sort at the end of the sentence to show I wasn't trying to be ~*mean*~. If you seriously weren't pointing out some hypocrisy going on on my part then my bad. Based on my previous edit history, because this isn't the first time I've had to resort to leaving a translation, it seemed pretty obvious that I did that as a last resort. I couldn't find the romanization so I had to use a translation for now until I, or someone else does. That's all. And I don't know how I've become the ~*defender*~ of removing all English translations just because I think their should be consistency but okay? I was beginning to type a response to the other things you addressed, including me somehow not needing examples and being smarter (Oh snap?), but I stopped because I don't feel like arguing about this. It's pretty ridic. Peace out. --Plisskin 20:05, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
I corrected the "Happy Ending" in Oh! and KARA's Mister. When a Japanese release comes with an English title in Katakana, we keep the English correct translation. I know you don't need examples... but anyway, like here, literal translation would be "Buruu Torein", but we keep the correct one.--Pizca 03:28, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

Seriously

Just chill out. Why do you need to overreact to everything? I was reading your posts to Pizca and it was a total lack of respect. I know you try hard but you don't need to be confronting people about it. If someone reverts your edits so what. Don't act like a whineass. If you keep on acting like this Administrative action WILL be taken. You have been warned. Zeli17 00:57, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

So you call me a "whine ass" but then I'm the one lacking respect? I didn't even curse but I get warned. And how was what I said lacking respect or overrating? And I don't care if someone reverts my edits or changes something so don't call me a "whine ass". If some one reverts my edits like Pizca did, then tells me a made up rule of why (and that I'm the only one doing it), then I'm going to call them out. You know what? Nevermind. I'm done with this wiki. And I will be contacting other mods to remove the wiki articles I wrote here so no need for the warning. --Plisskin 01:11, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
Ok then. We won't miss you. Zeli17 01:14, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
I seem to be missing something here. What's happening? Why is Plisskin blocked? Things seemed fine until just now with everyone on the wiki. Sure, there may be some issues with why a certain page was edited a certain way or something, but to block Plisskin? It seems a bit of a stretch --EXodius 02:02, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
I've sent you some messages. =) ~ Wapiko 02:05, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Just to let you know that the "mod" that blocked you, wasn't a real mod. He has caused a big mess and he has been banned from the site. None of us share his words, you are very welcomed if you want to return. And personally, I hope so. --Pizca 11:18, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Block?

Hey, you're not still blocked, are you? I see you've been made a sysop so you shouldn't be, anyway. xD Also, I want to apologize for everything that happened to you because of that ridiculous troll. I feel somewhat responsible because of his existence here and I hope that it hasn't ruined your impressions of this wiki. ~ Wapiko 18:34, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

I just saw that too and I'm surprised. I don't think I've done anything good enough to be sysop... O_o

Oh no, you don't have to apologize because it's not your fault (Dude has issues to be taking what happens on the internet so seriously), but thanks for the apology all the same. I'm still going to contribute to this wiki because I just like doing it too much to leave. :) --Plisskin 18:42, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

I don't see your IP blocked, so let me know if everything is back to normal --EXodius 18:46, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
Everything is all good now. Thanks :) --Plisskin 18:54, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
We've had problems in the past, but I'm sure glad you aren't leaving. : ) --P00p 19:21, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

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Deleted?017:23, 19 August 2010
Oricon009:54, 30 May 2010

Just curious as to why you deleted your page. You're still gonna be around, right? :(

  • eXodius
17:23, 19 August 2010

I deleted the Oricon charts you included on the Sugar releases, as it's difficult to find the dailies for older releases it's better to not have a blank chart.

Pizca09:54, 30 May 2010