Category talk:English Fluent

I have a small issue with the phrase "People found in this category are not native speakers" - this isn't true for a lot of them, and for some of them, they were raised speaking English. Some of them were raised with both English and Japanese and therefore don't technically have a "native" language. Shouldn't that part be removed, or revised to say "Some people found in this category are not necessarily native speakers"? ~ Wapiko 18:48, 24 April 2010 (CDT)

I'm not too sure on how to phrase it. That was the only way I could think of xD; I don't think that revised statement works though. ~ Themonkeyofdoom 19:14, 24 April 2010 (CDT)

Yeah, I wasn't sure how to phrase my revision. xDDD Maybe we could just take it out, period? It's not like English is a major language here at this wiki, so we don't need categories like Japanese or Korean Fluent...so just, English Fluent? If that makes sense. xD ~ Wapiko 19:54, 24 April 2010 (CDT)

I think those the categories are useful. I just think that native speakers shouldn't be listed in them, because it makes it a bit redunant (ex. a Japanese pop singer who was born in Japan shouldn't be given the Japanese fluent category). I don't think Marty Friedman should have a English fluent category because he is an American, and I feel like it's implied. ~ Themonkeyofdoom 08:43, 25 April 2010 (CDT)

Agreed on all of this, but then there are people like Utada Hikaru who can't claim to either being their native language, and Olivia, who I think grew up speaking both but is more comfortable in English. At the same time, I know a lot of people who had no idea Olivia wasn't completely Japanese but they see she looks half and are surprised she speaks English. XD ~ Wapiko 17:33, 25 April 2010 (CDT)