Hello there, I've noticed that you seem to be one of our main Hello! Project editors. I was wondering, since you work on those pages normally, if you could help with the re-formatting of them. It had been discussed when this wiki had first been created about using one consisent format over in the community portal. The AKB48 releases have already been changed, so the releases should look like this and the song pages to look more like this. I plan on working on changing H!P pages after I'm done with Shiina Hekiru, but it would be great to have some help! ~ Themonkeyofdoom 13:48, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
Deleting H!P Timelines?
I noticed you deleted all the H!P release pages (2009, 2008, etc) and just added delete tags. Any reason for this? While not a hugely popular set of pages, it was nice to refer to them to see what was released that year. --EXodius 06:22, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
- Hmm, I thought that there were too many pages relating to H!P alone. H!P pages seem to be such a special case (there's Hello! Project on Music Fighter and on a bunch of other shows), but this isn't an H!P wiki. H!P is only a group uniting artists. If there are H!P release pages, then why not release pages for every artist/group? Mierna 06:31, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
- Based on their popularity alone, it sort of makes sense to have these many pages for H!P. Honestly, it'd be nice if there were artist pages which showed then they were on CDTV, Music Station, etc. (or better yet, perhaps a main page listing all guests on during that week). A page was set up for Ayumi Hamasaki for what magazines she's appeared on. I personally don't mind if other artists had similar pages. Sure, it's not an H!P wiki, but admittedly those pages are the highest viewed ones here. If someone wants to make release pages for Johnny's Entertainment, for example, they're more than welcomed to do so :) --EXodius 18:03, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
I think that if we are differentiating Best albums from Studio albums, there should be a space for Cover and Mini albums too, and not just place them all under the same category. It's this way for many other artists so I don't understand why would you not want it?--Shinosuke 17:27, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
- They should only have a separe section if there is several best albums, mini-albums, cover albums, etc. If they only have a few of the following they should be listed under "Other Albums", like here. ~ Themonkeyofdoom 22:08, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
I noticed you've been adding color to some of the templates. Is there a method to it or is it just for aesthetics? Zoumusume 21:22, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
- Color was added to the H!P templates at the Japanese Wikipedia. Like here, but it's only for Mobekima, Su is still too small to have a template. I just noticed how the template colors also relate to the artists' promo colors for both the Mobekimasu concert AND their most recent releases. (Momusu is red, and they released "Onna ga Medatte Naze Ikenai".) I think it's a good way to have these templates stand out. Plus, other J-Pop artist templates have colors as well on this Wiki. Mierna 03:04, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
- Oh, I hadn't noticed that they corresponded to the Mobekimasu colors. I just wanted to make sure they didn't have some deeper meaning, and I wanted to spice up some of the older acts' templates. Zoumusume 21:16, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
Hi Mierna ^^. As I see you are working on anime related pages, I just wanted to tell you that the promo images for them have their own category in Category: Anime/Manga Promo Images :D --Pizca 06:12, 12 May 2010 (CDT)
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Hi Mierna! I saw on some websites that Piano Man from MAMAMOO is actually a mini-album and not a digital single as its listed, but I'm really confused because other websites lists it as a digital single and their upcoming EP Red Moon is their 7th mini-album. Should I change Piano Man category? Thank you! sorry for my bad english.
Oh, conflicting sources about the format is tough! I’m not familiar with the release, but I would look up multiple sites and decide from there which one describes the release best. Also, if it is gonna be changed from digital single to mini-album, have all the info ready that describes it as a mini-album.
And your English is good! Thank you so much for your contributions!
I'm really tired of managing all these spam accounts. Is there any way we could restrict account creation for the time being?
I was wondering the same thing…but I’ve got no idea how. I can only guess the spam influx is related to OpenID login not working and the decision to not use it anymore.
The great spam-pocalypse. I think I'm getting carpal tunnel from all the deleting/blocking.
I noticed some of the newer single pages for Hello! Project groups have the main song title translations moved to the top area of the page, instead of having them all located together in the tracklist section slightly further down. Is this some new regular thing that has been decided on and that I should by rule follow, or..?
I personally thought it was nice having just the Japanese at the top, and then all the translations together in the same section - though I understand this might just be my own preference. I wanted to ask before I did something silly like reversing it, and getting in trouble for doing it. I also don't wander outside of H!P related pages very often, so I have no idea how others are being done.
Actually, I'm not too picky about where to place the translations - but in the case of AKB's different tracklists on different editions releases (which H!P is also adopting now), the translation was best placed where the title of the single was first mentioned, since we'd be scrolling through multiple tracklists and multiple appearances of the same song. For me, it's all right to just see the translation appear once even if the song is repeated on tracklists.
But then again, for singles where there's just one or two different tracklists, then the translation doesn't have to appear at the top. (Especially for double A-sides where the combined title is going to be long anyway.) I'm less nitpicky about H!P release formats nowadays, so it's just personal preference at this point. I'm okay with either option. :3
Hi!. If you are making a cover album/mini-album/single tracklist, then the "(Original: xx)" format it's correct. However, when making regular releases tracklists the "(xx Cover)" format should be used.
Okay. But, why two different formats when all in all, it just indicates that the song is a cover?
The "xx Cover" would be too redundant to use in a tracklist that has been already stated that it's a cover release. On the other hand, "Original:", by itself, doesn't implies it's a cover, it may be a new version, an "answer" song, etc.....
So basically if the info says: hey! all the songs above are covers! it would be pointless to put "Cover" after every song. However, if the info section says: this is a new album! (new songs), you need to point that those are indeed covers.
Please, do not include the member's own groups releases into each member discography section. Even if they are solos or duets, etc... Only the songs the participated in, but that they are not from their group. Thank you.
Aye... okay. Just thought it'd be relevant for Takahashi and other formers, since hey, where else will you find out they had solos and featured parts in groups they're not part of? Like, for Momochi Yurushite Nyan, it's credited to Momoko feat. Berryz Kobo... Or like for Maimi and Airi's long list of solos. They're not necessarily group songs so much as they are their songs, hm? And Koharu did feature in Musume songs too besides Kirarin, she deserves that note too. Otherwise, the only way we'd find out about these small group songs is if we visited every single album page, which is tedious. I wouldn't know Takahashi and Niigaki had graduation solos until I visited their singles pages, which even then, is also tedious.
The way I see it, it's like a boost to their resume. Takahashi may have done work in Musume, but not all of Musume's work is Takahashi's, and then you learn she had several featured songs, including a few solos, which will be a boost to her profile as a singer since - she's yet to release any solo music. It's an advantage to any of the girls, since working in the group means the group is priority over the individual members, but once they graduate, what? We don't even acknowledge their featured work? I figured it would be a nice little boost to their individual profiles, especially the front girls who have a nice number of solos.
But, I can see the complications that can arise from putting every single release like this. Good point. Poor girls though, as it stands, their discography pages are already so little even though they're doing a lot of work in their groups...
I get you point. I've made a lot of group members pages and although they works a lot sometimes there's so little to put in there that it's sad. However as you said, it may become very complicated. It would probably end by each group members having a list of their groups releases, and everything would be duplicated over and over again.