User talk:Themonkeyofdoom

Hello everyone, welcome to my talk page. If you have a question feel free to ask and I will help you to the best of my knowledge. When asking a question I'd prefer if you'd type it out here instead of creating a thread. Sorry, prefer the old school method.

Question

See if I did right with the categories please (See at "On the Right" the single page of moumoon). About the Shibasaki Kou thing I swear I didnt know Hella was doing the pages! I was at jpopkpop page and I saw the news about Kou's new single lover soul, I guess, and I went to the page to see if the single was listed then I just saw that only the KOH+ releases were done and I started to do the rest! I swear I didnt know it!

Italics

Unless it's part of the wiki style, it's proper to italicize or underline longer works like albums, movies, books, etc. and use quotations for shorter works like songs, short stories, singles, etc. --Lambchopsuey 15:01, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

I know all that lol. I guess it's just part of style not to, because we've never italicized titles before. Not here and i don't ever remember doing it on thePPN. ~ Themonkeyofdoom 21:17, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

aiko artist

I'm sorry to say I don't really know. I know it's bad, but I've been a fan of aiko since a long time and am always collecting fact of her. All of this, has been wandering on my computer for quite some time. I tried to recollect everything and I am still actively searching for references. Oh, and I'm new to this site. I hope this information finds you. Should I delete it?

Romanizing names?

Since names are romanized based on official romanization, that's how Goto Maki is Goto and not Gotou, or how Nakazawa Yuko is Yuko and not Yuuko. But what about names like Berryz Koubou and Sudou Maasa? They have already been officially romanized as Berryz Kobo and Sudo Maasa, but we still keep the u's. What to do? Mierna 13:02, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

We should use the official romanization, so if it is without the u's the pages should be moved. ~ Themonkeyofdoom 15:34, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

LA chA TA

Why do you keep redirecting "LA chA TA" to "La Cha Ta"? The latter is spelled incorrectly. Plisskin 12:18, 06 November 2009 (UTC)

Because release pages need to be spelled with normal capitalization. You can link it like this, "LA chA TA". ~ Themonkeyofdoom 18:24, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

Artwork

Hey, regarding your artwork comment. First of, thanks! Second, I thought I was uploading them as "new versions" cos I was under the impression my uploads were replacing the existing file uploaded. Since that's not the case, do I need to edit the page and link to my uploaded file, or am I doing something wrong? --Fanmail 20:17, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Son Dam Bi

I'd like to know why did you move the picture on Son Dam Bi's page? It seems like a good portion of the wiki's I've contributed to on here you're always going back over me which is quite annoying. I don't mind if people add or delete things I've wrote, or even add corrections. However, I've come across various messed up wiki pages that have been inactive for months and no one has touched them. Yet when I do something, immediately there is a correction from you. --Plisskin 16:23, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

I'm constantly checking over the recent changes. If I see something wrong or that doesn't look good, I'm going to change it. ~ Themonkeyofdoom 16:34, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

I'll PM a mod to see if those changes your making are actually right. Working on a wiki is not about other users following what personally looks good to you. If you feel that way, then you should just get your own website instead of doing this. --Plisskin 16:42, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

I am a mod. The changes I've made to your pages are correct. Edits made by me and Seph really shouldn't be revert. The goal I'm trying to create here is to have consistant page style. I would suggest you creating your own site as you seem to revert any change made by others to pages you have touched (even if they are correct changes). ~ Themonkeyofdoom

If that's the case then you should be also fixing pages like Ayumi Hamasaki's or OLIVIA's instead of only fixing wiki's that appear on the recent changes. But you haven't. When I find out the change/revert I made wasn't right I leave it. You can view my history to see that's a negative. Nice try.

I still asked another mod anyway. --Plisskin 17:14, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Nice try? LOL. You revert this back to the wrong link, reverted collaboration section, this whole page recieved a series of un-needed reverts by you, you kept editing the categories out of this page, you revert changes, then did the same changes yourself, and again, AND AGAIN, this whole redirect issue, and I'm sure there is more. Most of those links I've included show several reverts of you taking out correct changes, and then you added the same changes in yourself.

As for me editing other pages, have you not seen my contributes? I've put most of my focus into extremely long pages, for artists with extensive discographies (such as Shiina Hekiru and Hayashibara Megumi). As for Hamasaki Ayumi I am working on a re-write of her bio, just like I did for Koda Kumi. It's easier to see recent mistakes because they appear in the recent changes, than go looking for them. ~ Themonkeyofdoom 23:14, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

I sent a message to Plisskin via PM about this issue, so I thought I'd post here a summary of that. Basically, artist pages with extensive info (such as Ayu) are allowed images that are placed to the left and right of the info. In the case of Son Dam Bi, there's a much smaller amount and (therefore) no need for images to be placed both sides. It's pretty much been the standard for all artist pages, but (as Themonkeyofdoom said) going to every single artist's pages can get time-consuming. Therefore, it's easier to just have everything corrected as they happen so that other contributors can follow the standard. I don't believe Themonkeyofdoom is deliberately attacking you or anyone here, but simply acting to ensure all pages have a standard look to them. Discographies can (should people choose to) have images on the right-hand side. Having them on the left only makes things not uniform.

The issue does bring to light a need for a proper FAQ of sorts (and not simply what the boilerplate templates would show). While not a common occurrence, I've seen a few people go back and forth on relatively minor items that probably don't need to happen. If any of you have any questions on the wiki, feel free to check out my profile and try to reach me on AIM, MSN, etc. My post here shouldn't be seen as one-sided, but I just hate to see arguing :) --EXodius 23:42, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Romanizing group names with non-standard characters

I have a question for you. I'm planning on making pages for the band シリアル⇔NUMBER and its alter ego thing ゴシック†NUMBER. Now, would I create the pages with the non-standard characters in the title and redirect alternate spellings to it, or not use them but use those characters in the redirect(s)? Would the serial and gothic parts of the name also be capitalized to balance the title out, so its not Serial⇔NUMBER but SERIAL⇔NUMBER? Or should those parts be written out like Serial⇔Number? ~CrypticTokyo 00:42, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

We don't use the non-standard characters in the titles, such as with pages like C-ute and DAIGO STARDUST. So it should be Serial NUMBER with the others redirecting to it. For katana we don't capitlize the word unless it has officially been put into romaji that way by the band. If not it should be written as Serial⇔NUMBER and Gothic†NUMBER. ~ Themonkeyofdoom 00:52, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Love Letter Tour

Hey I just was wondering if I could get some administrative advice.

Otsuka Ai's Love Letter Tour was separated into two parts; the Livehouse Tour and the Arena tour, both released on separate DVD's. There was also a Love Letter Tour box, which came with both DVD's and a third DVD that was also included in the Arena tour. I was planning on making these pages, but I don't know if the Box should have its own page or be combined with either of the other DVD's or both (it was released at the same time as the Arena tour).

Also, does subtitle problems count as relevant information to include with the Livehouse tour? The Hong Kong edition had a problem with both the aspect and hardsubs, later fixed on newer editions, which had slightly different packaging to help buyers identify which had the problems and which didn't. Lvng 17:13, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

It sounds like the box should have it's own page. I do think the subtitle problem should be listed in the information, since it effected a whole series pressing and not just like one or two discs. ~ Themonkeyofdoom 10:58, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

Alright sounds good. I'll get onto that. For the subtitle problem, should I have it under a different heading? And what should that be called? Lvng 02:56, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

No, it'll be fine under the information heading. You should say something like The first pressings if the HK editions had problems... etc. ~ Themonkeyofdoom 03:18, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

Template move

I'm working on Girls' Generation pages, and I was wondering if it's safe to move a template?. Their is, Template:So Nyuh Shi Dae, but as they are refered always as "Girls' Generation" I thought of moving it, but I don't know if I'm going to make a mess or something XD --Pizca 21:03, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

You can go ahead and move it, but you should go and change all the links to the template afterwards. ~ Themonkeyofdoom 21:28, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Instrumentals

Hey is it necessary to link the instrumentals of a song if the main song is already linked? - Krazoom

Yes, I prefer all remixes and instrumentals to linked as well as the main track. ~ Themonkeyofdoom 13:58, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

sorry >< I didn't think you'd answer me so I went to seph a while ago XD haha next time I'll be more patient. But thanks for your answer. I'll link all from now on.

VCD

I made a page for a VCD release here, but since there's not a category for VCDs I just put everything under the DVDs category. Is this correct or I should create and change all to VCD categories?--Pizca 12:33, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

A VCD is a different format so it should have it's own category. I've previously done this on the Hequil I page. ~ Themonkeyofdoom 20:37, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

OK, Thank you --Pizca 21:50, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

Member Names

I was wondering why, in the members section of a group page, do we have to write the romanization of their name even when each group member has a separate page with that already on it; like this for example? I find it a bit unnecessary. --Plisskin 20:56, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

Are you talking about the kana/hangual? The romaji is what is linked. We have the kana there because in many cases, the group/band members don't have pages created. I kinda think it is a bit unneccessary, mainly because I don't like how it looks with their name in kana, semi-colon, and position in group. Bring this up in the forums to see what everyone else thinks. ~ Themonkeyofdoom 21:45, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

Okay, I posted it on the forums. But I have one more question. I’m not sure if this has been addressed, but I personally think promo pictures/ images in general should only go in the “Information” section of a page. Pages like this for instance, I believe look tacky. I think the pictures should coincide with the information/ artist’s chronology in the Information section like the Girls' Generation and T-ara pages. Not only do I think having a bunch of images all throughout the “Information” and “Discography” pages looks tacky, but I think it defeats the purpose of the wiki when you have a page that has more images littered about but little or no information . --Plisskin

I also prefer the pages to look like this, but I don't think there is anything wrong with having images in the discography. I would love to have all our pages be filled with information, but it's hard to do that. All I ask that is that there arn't more images on the page then text.

I did want to say something about the song pages you've been creating recently. I think it's unnecessary to say this a "Korean pop song" since we know that the group releasing the song is a Korean pop group. The only time I think it would be needed would be for artists like BoA and Tohoshinki, who release in multiple languages. ~ Themonkeyofdoom 17:08, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

Extra Information - Kylee

Thanks for the information about the labels I thought RX was an independent label out of Sony. However I have something to tell you... Just because you dont like the "re-debuting shit" (a comment I didnt like it that much...), you need to understand that there are people who like to know if it's a indie release, a major release, etc etc. I always support your changes and ideas, but sometimes you need to respect other opinions/ideas, just that. Again thanks for the information about the labels. Foxxy

I'm sorry Foxxy, I hope you don't think I was yelling/complaining about you or what you wrote. I'm just annoyed with the Japanese record companies. They seem to be doing this more and more, taking an artist and "re-debuting" them. The really annoying thing is that Kylee has been signed with Sony since her debut, so them saying that this single is her "debut" single is annoying (I don't see how a major label can have an indie label anyways lol). I feel like the Japanese music scene puts too much emphasis on indie vs major labels. In the States if a indie band would move to a major label, their major label album wouldn't be a "debut" album, but let's say "their third album, and first signed to a major label." I feel like we should be more concerned with what number release it is from the artist instead of what kind of label. I think I'm going to bring this up in the forums, I think we should label the release like this "Blank is the fourth album (second major label) released by So and So" (which is what I've been doing) instead of dividing the singles up by major and indie.

And again Foxxy, I'm sorry if I offended you. It was not what I was trying to do. The rudness of my comment wasn't aimed at you or what you wrote, but at the company for labeling it that way. ~ Themonkeyofdoom 16:38, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Oh now I am relieved I really was pissed seeing that comment LOL. I was like "WTF?", you seem like a polite boy and it was kinda shocking lol. Now I am sorry, I thought it was directed to me. I feel the same frustration as you about the label. I am a big fan of Base Ball Bear... if you see their discography EMI just label everything wrong. It's soo confusing! I'll do like you say: "Blank is the fourth album (second major label) released by So and So". Thanks for the tip! =)-FoxxyFuyumi 17:48, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Trivia

All the TVXQ' member pages have a big section of trivia which make the page look like a fansite or something like that (things like "Able to inflate his stomach to 36 inches " or "His first kiss was when he was in middle school"). It's fine the way it is, or they should be removed? I always thought a little bit of trivia is interesting, but that much is absurd for a non-fan site.
Oh, and BTW, may you correct my grammar for TVXQ page? I've tried my best but I'm sure it's full of mistakes xD --Pizca 02:51, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

I'll go through it when I get a chance and see if it needs any corrections. I also think that that "Triva" is useless fangirl nonsense. I feel like artists can have a trivia section, but it should be filled with more useful information that doesn't fit into the articles main information section (such as this). ~ Themonkeyofdoom 21:12, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

I think I made the first step, but I'm not sure if I did the correct thing XD, EXodius just asked why it was removed. I leave it like that? I revert the change and I wait for you to check the other members trivia section too?

BTW, nice and interesting trivia section for Hayashibara Megumi.--Pizca 21:21, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

Just leave it. Regardless of what me and EXodius think, it should be removed since it was a request from the original author (I think it was Zela17 or something like that on thePPN, and she asked on the LJ forum to not use her articles here). ~ Themonkeyofdoom 21:28, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

Ok, if I see anything that might be worth staying, I will try to reword it.--Pizca 21:44, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

Bitter & Sweet Release Tour FINAL

Well, i've just opened a page for BENI's Bitter & Sweet Release Tour FINAL and a doubt came up. This is a Live CD+Live DVD, so should I put it under the category 'CD+DVD Only Albums' or leave it under both '2010 DVDs' and '2010 Albums' + 'Live Albums', like I did? Thanks --Bewithyou. 01:25, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

If it was only released in a CD+DVD format, you should use that category and "Live Albums", and "2010 Albums". The "2010 DVDs" should not be used, as CD+DVD releases don't get that category. ~ Themonkeyofdoom 05:14, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Release Canceled

I just found out the release for the Viva A.I. Japan Tour DVD has been canceled so what do I do about the page that I made? Do I put a delete tag on it or just mention it's cancellation in the article?

For now, let's just leave it. Mention it on the article. On AI's page lets strikeout the release and put a note next to it that it's been canceled. There is still a chance the label might release it at a later date. I find it interesting to read about dropped and shelfed works though, so I'm all for keeping the page for good lol. ~ Themonkeyofdoom 13:17, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

Gotcha, thanks :D. I struck out the date inside the article too. Don't know if that's OK though >< . --Krazoom 20:58, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

You Know

If I could give you a reward for good editing I would! You're a great user and I am very proud of you! Good Job! Zeli17 05:19, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Lol, thanks. I feel like I don't fail as epicly as I did back on thePPN. ~ Themonkeyofdoom 05:23, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Ha ha aww, you didn't epicly fail :)! I kind of sucked though :P Zeli17 05:38, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

You guys were both fine. XDDDDDDDDDDDDDdd Don't be so hard on yourselves. ~ Wapiko 06:20, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Quotation marks

Hey there! Any reason you changed the quotation marks in the Yamamoto Yusuke article to double-apostrophes? I'm changing those bits back as well as putting the periods back inside them, because it's proper English and whatnot. xD ~ Wapiko 22:50, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

We've been making to move to using italics for longer works such films, albums, TV series, and whatnot. Quotations are being used for shorter works such as songs, singles, and episode titles. I'm gonna change it back, since this is what we are working towards. ~ Themonkeyofdoom 00:50, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

To add, it hasn't been mentioned or established, but everyone has been using the "British style" regarding periods/commas with quotation marks, so they should go outside. --Lambchopsuey 01:12, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

The italics don't exactly seem to be working, but maybe that's just a problem on my end. ~ Wapiko 12:05, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Ah, nevermind - they are now. They weren't last night for some reason. ~ Wapiko 12:06, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

When Did This Happen?

Okay, so I edited 2PM's debut album page 1:59PM, and Pizca deletes the "Category:Debut Album" tag and the mention in the "Information" section that it is their debut album because "debut only applies to the first release of an artist". What??? So, if an artist releases their 1st album we can't use the debut album tag and call it a debut album? If so, then whats the use of the tag when a bunch of Japanese artists don't debut with an album but a single?

Themonkeyofdoom, Plisskin already stated this in my talk page so, if you don't mind and you have something to say answer him/her there, thanks. --Pizca 23:20, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Whoa!!

Did I erase half that page!!?? I didn't catch myself doing that!! Sorry about that >< --Krazoom 06:27, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

NINE DIRTS DVD

Hey I just saw that you did an edit on the Nine Dirts and Snow White Flickers page. I can get the removal of the Oricon chart, but was it necessary to remove the Wikipedia links? Those are not Japanese songs or artists, and as such will never have a page on J-Pop stop, or have we changed our policies for that? Lvng 12:09, 2 May 2010 (CDT)

LOL, I didn't mean to remove the link on Caorl King, just give it the correct linking. As for the songs, we have tons of covered foreign songs and we have always allowed them. ~ Themonkeyofdoom 12:33, 2 May 2010 (CDT)

Well it's different when it's covered on a CD to when it's covered live, is it not? And "ARIA DA CAPO" is less of a cover, and more of a performance of the song. Being a Bach song, at the very least I think that should be directed to the wikipedia page. Lvng 15:02, 2 May 2010 (CDT)

Not it's not. I've never seen songs that have been performed live linked any differently then song covered on an album. The songs weren't just performed live, they were released on a DVD, which means their should be listed credits for the tracks. We have pages linked for other pieces of classical work so I don't see why this would be any different. ~ Themonkeyofdoom 16:59, 2 May 2010 (CDT)

Ah well, I guess I simply had never come across them then. My apologies. I forsee some problems though, making some of these pages. Mainly the classical songs. Specifically on Nine Dirts, Hal-oh Togashi plays piano; Onitsuka has no relation to it, other than perhaps the choice of the song for the concert. Who should I credit the song to? Also, on the ULTIMATE CRASH, Moonlight Sonata is the opener for the concert, but it is listed in the tracklist as "Introduction". What should the page for the song be? And when we're linking classical work, should we use Wikipedia's standard for the page name? I figure if you could link to a similar page for me, I can probably get the general idea. Lvng 17:16, 2 May 2010 (CDT)

List who ever performed the song as the artist. We don't have any pages for those songs (that I've seen), but we do have links for those pages. Since it's for Ontisuka's release label the track "Introduction" since that's what she calls it, but on the page be sure to note that the song is "Moonlight Sonata" and whatnot. ~ Themonkeyofdoom 19:31, 2 May 2010 (CDT)

That sounds fine then. I'll get on that soon. I guess there is a bit more trouble though, since that Introduction is played by two pianists (Takefumi and Togashi). Now as far as I know, Takefumi is only an arranger, and has not released any music of his own. Togashi on the other hand has (although we have no information on him here, since he only does piano work from what I've seen. Should I list Togashi? Or shall I simply list both...? Or maybe having Onitsuka as the artist is a better idea, since its her release? We do the same for interludes on albums, like Hamasaki Ayumi's. Lvng 19:42, 2 May 2010 (CDT)

Ya, just list Onitsuka as it seems easier xD; ~ Themonkeyofdoom 20:13, 2 May 2010 (CDT)